Theos-Talk Archives (November 2006 Message tt00908)

Daniel, 

I suppose someone may have come to the number "665" ( see below) by mediumnistic methods, or by public lottery, since we are not given substance about that. 

The corrections, if really made, should be useful.  Similar acusations are made against Boris de Zirkoff.  Yet Boris, Pasadena, Point Loma  and the ULT have played major roles in preserving the teaching. With help from Adyar in many cases (Boris, for instance).  

Carlos. 


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Assunto:Theos-World 665 Changes: Not proofreading mistakes but "corrections"

> 665 Changes: Not proofreading mistakes 
> but intentional changes -- "corrections"
> 
> It would appear based on all the FIVE documents quoted below that the 
> 665 changes & alterations to be found in the Theosophy Company 
> edition of THE VOICE OF THE SILENCE are not "proofreading mistakes" 
> as vaguely speculated on by Carlos Aveline BUT changes 
> and "corrections" actually made by W.Q. Judge, Annie Besant and 
> G.R.S. Meade to HPB's original edition!!!!
> 
> Apparently John Garrigues of the ULT made the ONE big mistake! [See 
> below] 
> 
> Hence generations of readers who have used the Theosophy Company ed. 
> of the VOICE have read a copy of HPB's VOICE with 665 alterations 
> made not only by Judge but also by Besant and Meade!! 
> 
> Daniel
> http://hpb.cc
> 
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> In a letter dated March 30, 1928 and signed by THE
> THEOSOPHY COMPANY, the anonymous writer informed Dr.
> H.N. Stokes:
> 
> "The Theosophy Company is just bringing out an
> entirely new edition of *The Voice of the Silence.* .
> . .. Sometime ago the Theosophy Company came into
> possession of a copy of the original London edition of
> *The Voice of the Silence* with the typographical
> changes and corrections made by Mr. Judge in his own
> hand, and it is this text which is followed in the
> edition just being issued by the Theosophy Company. .
> . ." [quoted in O.E. LIBRARY CRITIC, July 1928.]
> 
> In a follow-up letter dated May 1, 1928, THE THEOSOPHY
> COMPANY again stated to Dr. Stokes the following:
> 
> "This new [TC 1928] edition . . . is set up *verbatim
> et literatim* from a copy of the original edition of
> *The Voice of the Silence* as corrected by Mr. Judge
> in his own handwriting. This copy we have in our
> possession. . . ." [quoted in O.E. LIBRARY CRITIC,
> July 1928.]
> 
> Some clarification of the above was FINALLY given more than
> seventy years later in "The Aquarian Theosophist" (see 
> Aug. 17, 2002 issue):
> 
> "This change [in THE VOICE concerning the "thin oblong
> squares] FIRST occurred in the 1892 edition of the
> Voice issued by G.R.S. Mead and A. Besant. Hence it
> appears that WQJ based his 1893 edition on the
> Mead/Besant reprint rather than HPB's original. ?
> EDS." [Caps added. See
> p. 2,
> footnote 1.]
> 
> Further light was thrown on the subject by the
> following two documents.
> 
> One ULT associate wrote in Oct. 2003:
> 
> ". . . both of those Stokes letters [cited above] are
> mistaken due to the erroneous info he [Stokes] received from
> Theosophy Company. At the time (1928) John Garrigues
> [of ULT] (whose handwritten note appears on the inside
> front cover) did not realize that changes had ALREADY
> BEEN MADE in the edition Judge was marking up for
> publication."
> 
> Another writer also in Oct. 2003 elaborated on the edition
> Judge marked up:
> 
> ". . . Judge did not use HPB's original edition for
> his own edition of the Voice, but used the already
> doctored 1892 edition which was probably altererd
> [sic] by Mead and Besant. . . . this has been verified
> because that 1892 copy with Judge's handwriting is in
> LA Lodge [of the United Lodge of Theosophists].
> . . . "
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