Theos-Talk Archives (November 2006 Message tt00765)

John,

You say: 

"I don't see ever reason for  paranoia about Theosophy being "infiltrated" by GD adherents per se."

I say:  

"I do not see reasons for paranoia, in that we agree. I was quoting R. A. Gilbert's well-documented pamnphlet published in London.  It is his thesis, not mine, which says the ES was created to avoid GD's infiltration in the theosophical movement.  Perhaps you would like to read Gilbert's essay and also what HPB had to say about that. I gave the proper quotations."

Regards,  Carlos. 

 
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Data:Sun, 12 Nov 2006 17:07:23 EST

Assunto:[Spam] Re: Theos-World H.P.B. VERSUS GOLDEN DAWN

> Carlos,
> The GD had hardly been born while H.P.B. lived I don't see ever reason for 
> paranoia about Theosophy being "infiltrated" by GD adherents per se. After 
> all there were no bars to membership in Theosophy in general and advancement to 
> the inner groups were under the direct inspection and approval of the 
> Mahatma's who made the final assessment that granted entry. I also don't like the use 
> of the word "political" as there were no political Parties involved. The 
> premise that Masons, Freemasons, and others were already members predates the 
> forming of the GD and from what I read they (Masons and Freemasons) already had in 
> their higher sequestered Degree's the very material that was used to form the 
> GD and it's Degree criteria so what is the uproar over? I don't see Gilbert's 
> viewpoint about why the Es was formed, Radha was asked by the Mahatma to form 
> it for the express purpose of advancing a selected group where did it say what 
> Gilbert is "postulating"?
> 
> Irrespective of any views by any persons and whether or not Theosophical 
> Society existed or never existed it is likely that such groups a GD and others 
> that H.P.B. mentions would arise and fade and arise and fade as is actually 
> seen over the course of the last century:
> 
> 
> >>Golden Dawn Time Line
> 1887Westcott decodes the Cipher Manuscript. He asks Mathers and Woodman to 
> join him in setting up the new Order.
> 
> March 1, 1888Isis-Urania Temple #3 is chartered. Westcott, Woodman, and 
> Mathers are the Three Chiefs. Mina Bergson (Moina Mathers) is the 1st initiate.(The 
> numbering system marks the mythical Anna Sprengel's temple in Germany, Licht, 
> Liebe und Leben as #1. Hermanoubis Temple #2 in London, was supposedly 
> chartered but never active.)
> 
> 1888Osiris Temple # 4 at Weston-Super-Mare is chartered. All members are 
> Masons.Horus Temple # 5 at Bradford is chartered.Fall, 
> 
> 1891The R.R. et A.C. is established.December, 1891Dr. Woodman dies. No one is 
> appointed to take his place.Dec. 7, 
> 
> 1891Annie Horniman is the first initiate into the R.R. et A.C.May 21, 
> 
> 1892The Matherses move to Paris.1893Amen-Ra Temple #6 is chartered in 
> Edinburgh. Members included J.W. Brodie-Innes and Dr. Felkin.Westcott's resigns as 
> Praemonstrator. Florence Farr takes on the position. Annie Horniman is made 
> Sub-Praemonstrator.January, 
> 
> 1894Mather's Ahathoor Temple #7 is consecrated in Paris. Famous French 
> occultist Papus (Dr. Gerard Encausse) is a member.
> 
> 1896Florence Farr begins the "Sphere Group," a separate group of skryers 
> within the Golden Dawn.Spring, 
> 
> 1896Annie Horniman and MacGregor Mathers have a falling out.Oct. 29, 
> 
> 1896Mathers issues manifesto demanding written submission of Second Order 
> members to his authority.Dec. 3, 
> 
> 1896Annie Horniman is expelled from the Golden Dawn for 
> insubordination.Spring,
> 
> 1897Westcott's association with the Order is made public. He resigns from 
> office in the Golden Dawn and the R.R. et A.C. Florence Farr takes over his 
> position as head of the Order in England.
> 
> 1897Thmé Temple No. 8 is established in Chicago. Ill.Thoth-Hermes Temple No. 
> 9 is established in New York.Jan. 16, 
> 
> 1900Mathers initiates Aleister Crowley into the 5=6 Grade in Paris after 
> London Adepts refuse to initiate him. The London Adepts refuse to recognize 
> Crowley's initiation.January, 
> 
> 1900Florence Farr writes to Mathers. He accuses her of attempting to bring 
> back Westcott as head of the Order. She resigns.February, 
> 
> 1900Mathers introduces Madame Horos as Anna Sprengel at Ahathoor.Feb. 16, 
> 
> 1900Mathers refuses Ms. Farr's resignation. He accuses Westcott of forging 
> the Anna Sprengel letters.March , 
> 
> 1900Second Order committee members in London investigate charges of fraud and 
> expel MacGregor and Moina Mathers. Annie Horniman is reinstated.April,
> 
> 1900Schism. Mathers annuls Second Order committee and sends Aleister Crowley 
> to take control of R.R. et A.C.'s property in London. The take-over fails.
> 
> 1900Isis Temple #11 is created by Dr. Berridge in London. It remains loyal to 
> Mathers. (This temple is also called Alpha et Omega 1)1901Internal battles 
> over Florence Farr's "Sphere Group." Horos Trials and unwanted publicity.January,
> 
> 1902Florence Farr resigns from the Golden Dawn, which changes its name to 
> the Hermetic Society of the Morgenrothe.
> 
> 1902Horus Temple at Bradford gradually pulls away from G.D. teachings. 
> Eventually turns from G.D. to SRIA ideals, and accepts only Master Masons.Spring,
> 
> 
> 1903Schism. Brodie-Innes, Felkin, and the magically-inclined members form 
> the Stella Matutina. Their Mother temple is called Amoun.Waite, Blackden, Rev. 
> Ayton, and the more mystically-inclined members take over the remnants of 
> Isis-Urania #3. Waite forms the Independent and Rectified Rite of the Golden Dawn 
> (and the later Fellowship of the Rosy Cross in 1916).Temples loyal to Mathers 
> take on the name Alpha et Omega.
> 
> 1912Alpha et Omega 2 (temple) is formed in Edinburgh as a daughter temple to 
> Amen-Ra. Brodie-Innes is its chief, (after having made peace with Mathers and 
> broken off with Felkin).Felkin establishes Smaragdum Thalasses Temple of the 
> Stella Matutina in Havelock North, New Zealand. The Order in New Zealand became 
> known by the Maori name of Whare Ra or "The House of the Sun."
> 
> 1913Amen-Ra also sires a spin-off hybrid called Cromlech Temple or the Solar 
> Order-a collaboration between Alpha et Omega 2 and Anglican 
> clergymen.Brodie-Innes, establishes an A.O. temple in London as a southern branch of his revived 
> Amen-Ra Temple in Edinburgh. (It functions separately from Moina Mathers's 
> Alpha et Omega
> 3.)
> 
> 1916Felkin establishes the following temples of the Stella Matutina: Hermes 
> Lodge in Bristol, The Secret College in London (open only to SRIA members), and 
> Merlin Lodge in London.Felkin establishes another Order, the Guild of St. 
> Raphael - a guild of the Anglican Church.
> 
> 1918Paul Foster Case is initiated into the 0=0 grade at Thoth-Hermes Temple 
> No. 9 in New York (November).
> 
> 1919Moina Mathers returns to London after MacGregor's death and establishes 
> the Alpha et Omega 3.Dion Fortune joins Broddie-Innes' A.O. temple in 
> London.The A.O. establishes Ptah Temple No. 10 in Philadelphia.
> 
> 1920The Amoun Temple of the Stella Matutina in London is closed down due to 
> the paranoid behavior of its chief (Mrs. Stoddart).The A.O. establishes Atoum 
> Temple No. 20 in Los Angeles.
> 
> 1922In January Moina expels Paul Foster Case from the Golden Dawn. Case goes 
> on to create his own Order, the Builders of the Adytum or BOTA.Dion Fortune 
> leaves the Alpha et Omega Lodge to form the Fraternity of the Inner 
> Light.[Spinoff groups from the Fraternity of the Inner Light included The Guild of the 
> Master Jesus (London - 1925) Helios (Gareth Knight -Toddington -1956), the 
> Enochian Temple (London 1969) and the Servants of the Light (W.E. Butler).
> 
> ]1923The Stella Matutina is close to collapse. Yeats resigns.
> 
> 1926Israel Regardie was initiated into the SRIAm (Societas Rosicruciana in 
> America)
> 
> 1933Israel Regardie into the Hermes Temple of the Stella Matutina in Bristol.
> 
> 1937Israel Regardie begins to publish the Order's teachings as The Golden 
> Dawn.
> 
> 1939Most temples of the A.O. and the Stella Matutina become dormant (with the 
> exception of the Hermes Temple in Bristol which worked sporadically until 
> 1970 and the Whare Ra temple in NewZealand which lasted into the late 1970's).
> 
> 1982Israel Regardie consecrates the Vault of the Adepti in Columbus, Georgia, 
> and performs initiations into the 5=6 grade, re-establishing the Golden Dawn 
> in America.A couple in New Zealand (Pat and Chris Zalewski) found a Golden 
> Dawn temple there.2000<< 
> 
> From: The Golden Dawn 
> 
> As seen the lives of many people doing what turned on their Seven fold 
> Economy. It would have happened anyway and still does today. We don't need an 
> Inquisitor we need to see the world and be rationalin our seeing.
> 
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