Theos-Talk Archives (November 2006 Message tt00647)

Friends, 

Daniel has had some difficulty, it seems,  in realizing three things: 

1) That HPB's Theosophy itself is more important than the differences in interpretations or political differences among groups which recognize the importance of HPB/Masters's Theosophy. 

2) That since the 1950s a few decades have passed, and Pasadena TS, Edmonton TS, the ULT and other Blavatsky groups are much more cooperative and respectful among them. 


3) That we should be able to look to the future in a constructive way, and to recognize, perhaps,  that the main illusions now preventing  the theosophical movement from being more active and creative are the Annie Besant/ Leadbeater illusions, which still circulate and misguide most of theosophists all over the world. 

Regards,   Carlos.  


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Data:Fri, 10 Nov 2006 14:28:25 -0000

Assunto:Theos-World "Do gossips help anyone?"

> Carlos wrote:
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> Why stir animosities?
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> Are we not for universal brotherhood? Do gossips help anyone?
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> So does Carlos consider Theosophical history as "gossip"?
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> I ask the following:
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> Does Carlos really believe that the 1951 edition of THE THEOSOPHICAL
> MOVEMENT which is sold TODAY by the Theosophy Company, Los Angeles and
> also sold by individual lodges of the ULT....does he believe
> that this work doesn't stir "animosities" or doesn't have the 
> potential of doing so? Could one say that this book is full 
> of "gossip"?
> 
> Carlos throws around the word "gossip" but the historical material 
> that he has labelled "gossip", is this material really any different 
> than the material he presents about Leadbeater or Adyar?
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> I have heard a few Leadbeater students say the THE ELDER BROTHER by
> Tillett is full of gossip, too.
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> Is Margaret Thomas' recounting of certain things about Leadbeater just
> gossip?
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> See:
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> http://blavatskyarchives.com/ton2.pdf
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> It may not be pleasant to read all of this but is it gossip?
> 
> Or take the following material:
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> William Q. Judge and Katherine A. Tingley: An Analysis of the
> Controversy Surrounding W.Q. Judge's Diary Entries about "Promise" and
> the Dead H.P.B. including Material on the Close Relationship between
> Mr. Judge and Mrs. Tingley by H.N. Stokes
> http://blavatskyarchives.com/stokes/stokeswqjktcon.htm
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> Is this just gossip?
> 
> And if any of this historical material stirs animosities, then why is
> that so?
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> Maybe some Theosophists need to learn to manage their emotions better
> and learn to view things calmly.
> 
> Promoting "universal brotherhood" is a wonderful ideal and also a
> challenge to do it in day to day situations.
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> I wish that we would have more practical demonstrations of that ideal
> here on Theos-Talk.
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> But far too much of the time we have certain people on Theos-Talk who
> have no hesitation in calling other posters "names" or questioning
> other people's motives. How can one be for universal brotherhood and
> at the same time engage in such behavior? 
> 
> But to discuss history and to try to set the record straight, why
> equate that with "gossip" and "animosities"????
> 
> Daniel
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