Theos-Talk Archives (September 2006 Message tt00271)

Daniel,

Well, I have  noticed that publicizing the old 19th hundred portraits of the Masters' physical vehicles is a favourite activity of yours. 

And this, in spite of the fact that they clearly said  -- in the 1900 Letter and elsewhere --  that people should avoid adoring their poor "personal" selves. People should have devotion for the Supreme Principle or Universal Truth,  alone.  Their words. 

You write, very 'Besant sounding' : 

" .... sometimes depending on the circumstances or the individual, they [Masters] may communicate in a very definite visual or verbal way. (...) 
(...) on another personal note, I find their portraits as painted in 
1884 as very beautiful, inspiring and uplifting."


I said Besant only? No. You are sounding like Leabeater and Besant. Both  created a  degrading personalistic cult around the Mahatmas  (something Sigmund Freud can explain very well, by the way). 

As Ernest Wood asked in the title of his book --  "Is This Theosophy?"

Is this Theosophy, Daniel?  

Transforming parts of the theosophical movement in Personalistc Cults and thinking of Adepts as if they were the Catholic Saints of James Wedgwood's  Liberal Church?  Yes, Daniel, the cult for portrait is something you seem to have in common with Wedgwood, too. 

As you know, people who personalize the Mahatmas and thus distort their true existence soon start asking personal favours from the portraits! I hope this did not happen to you. 

But I tell you, Daniel  -- there is more than one life for an upper triad,  and what you do in one lifetime determines the kind of chances, or opportunities, you will have in the next ones.   Those who bring  "Theosophy" down to  the personality and  physical plane, will get  "opportunities" at this same level in the future.  

I guess you have by now a great opportunity right in front of you, Daniel. You can turn your attention to the Philosophy of Theosophy and thus help the movement to go ahead from personalistic gossips. 

Why not going beyond narrow petty gossips, physical plane portraits --  and publicity for slanders?

It is all in your own hands!


Hopeful regards from your fellow planetary citizen,  Carlos. 


 





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Data:Thu, 14 Sep 2006 17:25:17 -0000

Assunto:Theos-World Carlos on "Contact With Masters Is Not Verbal"

> Carlos,
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> Contact is available -- through one's own Monad and Sixth Principle. 
> It is not visual or verbal. It is not "personal". Realizing this, 
> common sense prevails.
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> But Carlos, I would suggest that neither you or I know for certain!
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> Who are we to dictate to the Masters how they might communicate
> with various individuals???
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> I agree it may be that for the most part "through one's own Monad 
> and Sixth Principle."
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> But sometimes depending on the circumstances or the individual, they 
> may communicate in a very definite visual or verbal way.
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> I don't think we can know or dictate what is the truth in this 
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> I personally would for the most part disregard any verbal or visual 
> supposed communication from them. Our subconscious minds are so 
> good at projecting illusions! 
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> But on another personal note, I find their portraits as painted in 
> 1884 as very beautiful, inspiring and uplifting. 
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> But do we really need to be in verbal communication with the 
> Masters? We have in the original Blavatsky/Mahatmic corpus of 
> writings more than enough teachings, advice, inspiration, etc., that 
> it may be somewhat presumptuous to think that they would communicate 
> with us on a personal level.
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> But I don't think we can lay down hard and fast rules as to how the 
> Masters might choose to communicate with some individuals.
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