Theos-Talk Archives (March 2006 Message tt00918)

Carlos -- I'm glad you brought up HPB's teachings about the sixth 
subrace.  HPB also spoke about cycles and subcycle and taught that 
an important subcycle of the Kali Yuga ended in 1897.  Human 
functioning would be affected by the cyclic (or subcyclic) change in 
1897.

HPB was very concerned about an increase in psychism during the 20th 
century, after the new cyclic phase began after 1897.  She wanted to 
provide a groundwork for ethics for the period when psychism would 
increase in the 20th century.  (See Letters to the American 
Convention 1888...)

Since HPB spoke about various cycles and subcycles, one of which 
ended in 1897, there's good reason to anticipate geological changes 
could occur in the contemporary period.  Nothing in the SD ever said 
that evolutionary cycles will occur only in 25,000 years.  On the 
contrary, HPB anticipated tremendous changes in the 20th century.  
And that's exactly what we've seen, including solar and geophysical 
phenomena never before recorded in known history -- or, at least 
historical accounts that survived the Vatican's march of destruction 
through the world's cultures.  

Best regards,
Krsanna Duran 


--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "carlosaveline cardoso aveline" 
<carlosaveline@...> wrote:
>
> 
> Dear Krsanna,
> 
> Let me make one thing clear, if I may.
> 
> HPB writes in the SD that in 25,000 years from now the sixth 
subrace, fifth 
> race, will be flourishing.
> 
> Theosophy teaches that geological changes are routine from time to 
time. 
> They are linked to subraces chanfges and to race changes (as the 
Atlantisd 
> crisis illustrates).
> 
> So, regardless of the seriousness of the geological changes which 
we are 
> living now and will live in the next years/decades, the PLANET is 
not in 
> danger, whatsoever, and humanity as such is not, also, even if 
civilization 
> is (and computers may be in danger too).
> 
> The Masters, in their Letters, besides  HPB and W. Judge,  
foretold some of 
> the changes we may be about to see, and which are living already.
> 
> Since the 1970s, many ecologists have started to add their voices 
to it.  
> Not to mention Edgar Cayce, etc.
> 
> Best regards, Carlos.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >From: "krsanna" <timestar@...>
> >Reply-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> >To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: Theos-World Re: Adyar's "Irrelevancy" & Our Planet
> >Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 20:41:25 -0000
> >
> >Carlos -- I hear what you say, and I see the factual existence of
> >events that only 10 years ago scientists did not believe was
> >possible, not to mention likely.  Arctic ice has been melting at 
an
> >unprecedented rate that in 1997.  If you read carefully, you will
> >find that scientists really did not believe the current melt rate
> >was possible.
> >
> >When anyone can predict the cyclic events with even a modicum of
> >accuracy, I will trust that person's judgment about the
> >environmental condition.  I have been forecasting events with the
> >proto-Mayan calendar for over a decade and have a pretty good 
track
> >record.
> >
> >In 1997-98, I predicted unprecedented melting of the ice caps 
after
> >a series of cycles in the Mayan calendar suggested polar areas 
were
> >a focus.  In 1998, I identified the location of the where the
> >December 26, 2004 earthquake was likely to occur.
> >
> >Best regards,
> >Krsanna
> >
> >--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "carlosaveline cardoso aveline"
> ><carlosaveline@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Krsanna,
> > >
> > > There is no possibility that the planet will die.
> > >
> > > This is out of the question.
> > >
> > > Long, long  before the planet stopping being necessary for our
> >evolution,
> > > everyone will be Adept, and I mustll tell you: I haven't 
attained
> > > adepthood yet.
> > >
> > > I am ashamed to say so, but I am still a mere aspirant to to 
lay
> > > discipleship!
> > >
> > > So, WAIT !!!  I need this soil here!
> > >
> > > The only thing that is at stake is, perhaps, a sub-race 
crisis.  I
> >don't
> > > think it is a race crisis.
> > >
> > > The crisis of a sub-race (fifth subrace in the fifth race)  
may be
> >an ugliy
> > > thing to live, but has NOTHING  to do with the death of a 
planet,
> >if we read
> > > anything about Theosophy.
> > >
> > > And perhaps it is sub a crisis of a sub-subrace, or " family"
> >crisis, or
> > > civilization crisis.
> > >
> > > Now, within this civilization of ours, you know that every
> >generation has
> > > the humble habit to describe itself as "perhaps the last one", 
as
> >the
> > > generation which will "make or break".  Holy Modesty!  And this
> >has been
> > > going on for thousands of years.
> > >
> > >
> > > Now,what about the practical use of understanding the  history 
of
> >the
> > > theosophical movement?
> > >
> > > Well, in order to face our planetary crisis,  it is useful to
> >understand the
> > > movement, since it is an instrument ( I said 'a', not 'the'
> >instrument )
> > > created to help prepare next civilizations at a subtle level.
> > >
> > > Thus the relevancy of Narada TS' own history and tradition, for
> >instance.
> > >
> > > Only by understanding what is true and false in the history of 
the
> >movement
> > > we will be able to rescue the movement as a better intrument to
> >serve human
> > > progress in the future.
> > >
> > >
> > > Best regards and long life to the planet!   Carlos.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "krsanna" <timestar@>
> > > >Reply-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > > >To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > > >Subject: Re: Theos-World Adyar's irrelevancy
> > > >Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 17:22:12 -0000
> > > >
> > > >Electricity and magnetism are the twins of physicality.
> > > >Instantaneous electronic and computer capabilities changed 
the way
> > > >the world thinks.  Individuals who grew up playing computers
> >games,
> > > >now in their 30's, perceive the world in different terms 
than, for
> > > >instance, my father's generation.  My father was born in a 
sod hut
> > > >in 1918, and the realities of the electronic world were 
largely
> > > >outside his purview of the world.
> > > >
> > > >The problems these kids must deal with are beyond anything
> > > >Theosophists who set the pace for this century – Olcott, 
Besant,
> >and
> > > >Leadbeater – ever imagined.  Take a look at the article below 
on
> > > >irreversible climate changes associated with the failure of 
Arctic
> > > >ice to re-form.
> > > >
> > > >The absurdity of Besant's "Coming" is a frivolous, if not 
obscene,
> > > >concern in view of the exigencies of keeping the planet alive,
> > > >largely as a result of arrogant misuse and abuse of the
> >environment
> > > >at the hands of the "old" guys.  I am ashamed of the mess my
> > > >generation (Baby Boomer) is turning over to the Digital
> >generation.
> > > >
> > > >In this environment, the National Director of Education at TSA
> > > >questioned, "Should Christmas be saved?" in the National 
Lodge's
> > > >first issue of their first elist.  The culture is outgrowing
> > > >Christmas.  (It's about time!!!)  ONE TSA MEMBER SUGGESTED
> >CHRISTMAS
> > > >SHOULD BE SAVED FOR THOSE PEOPLE WHO STILL NEED IT.  As the
> >society
> > > >begins to reject Christianized dogma, and TSA members have 
stepped
> > > >forward to save it for those who still need it.
> > > >
> > > >I believe HPB's cyclic model will be useful in "life and 
death"
> > > >environmental issues.   That's why I keep talking about 
cycles and
> > > >timewaves.  I backed into Theosophy looking for anything 
available
> > > >on cycles after I had worked with the Mayan calendar more 
than a
> > > >decade.
> > > >
> > > >Best regards,
> > > >Krsanna
> > > >
> > > >CLIMATE CHANGE `IRREVERSIBLE' AS ARCTIC SEA ICE FAILS TO RE-
FORM
> > > >By Steve Connor, Science Editor
> > > >Published: 14 March 2006
> > > >Sea ice in the Arctic has failed to re-form for the second
> > > >consecutive winter, raising fears that global warming may have
> > > >tipped the polar regions in to irreversible climate change far
> > > >sooner than predicted.
> > > >
> > > >Satellite measurements of the area of the Arctic covered by 
sea
> >ice
> > > >show that for every month this winter, the ice failed to 
return
> >even
> > > >to its long-term average rate of decline. It is the second
> > > >consecutive winter that the sea ice has not managed to re-form
> > > >enough to compensate for the unprecedented melting seen 
during the
> > > >past few summers.
> > > >
> > > >Scientists are now convinced that Arctic sea ice is showing 
signs
> >of
> > > >both a winter and a summer decline that could indicate a major
> > > >acceleration in its long-term rate of disappearance. The 
greatest
> > > >fear is that an environmental "positive feedback" has kicked 
in,
> > > >where global warming melts ice which in itself causes the 
seas to
> > > >warm still further as more sunlight is absorbed by a dark 
ocean
> > > >rather than being reflected by white ice…
> > > >
> > > >Dr Serreze said that some parts of the northern hemisphere
> > > >experienced very low temperatures this winter, but the Arctic 
was
> > > >much warmer than normal. "Even in January, when there were
> >actually
> > > >record low temperatures in Alaska and parts of Russia, it was
> >still
> > > >very warm over the Arctic Ocean," he said.
> > > >
> > > >-- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "M K Ramadoss" <mkr777@> 
wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On 3/16/06, Drpsionic@ <Drpsionic@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In a message dated 3/16/2006 7:35:32 AM Central Standard
> >Time,
> > > > > > timestar@ writes:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The  internet by itself has done much to make Adyar
> >irrelevant.
> > > >I'm
> > > > > > more  interested in the terms of the Young Theosophists 
that
> >I
> > > >am in
> > > > > > trying to  rescue the elder generation.  The older 
generation
> > > >will
> > > > > > disappear and  return to seek truth in new cultural 
terms.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In  the
> > > > > > rapidly becoming old days, groups and organizations were
> > > >necessary
> > > > > > because  the
> > > > > > means of communication made them necessary.  That may no
> >longer
> > > >be
> > > > > > the  case.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Chuck the Heretic
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Amen.
> > > > > Transportation and communication are some of the key 
factors
> >that
> > > >have
> > > > > changed the world for good, much to the chagrin of the 
older
> > > >generation.
> > > > >
> > > > > mkr
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > 
_________________________________________________________________
> > > COPA 2006: O horário dos jogos do Brasil na Copa Clique aqui!
> > > http://copa.br.msn.com/tabelas/tabela/
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> _________________________________________________________________
> COPA 2006: Enfeite o seu MSN Messenger de verde e amarelo! 
> http://copa.br.msn.com/extra/emoticons/
>