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Krsanna: Cycles & Our Most Healthy Planet

Mar 17, 2006 06:32 AM
by carlosaveline cardoso aveline



Dear Krsanna,

Let me make one thing clear, if I may.

HPB writes in the SD that in 25,000 years from now the sixth subrace, fifth race, will be flourishing.

Theosophy teaches that geological changes are routine from time to time. They are linked to subraces chanfges and to race changes (as the Atlantisd crisis illustrates).

So, regardless of the seriousness of the geological changes which we are living now and will live in the next years/decades, the PLANET is not in danger, whatsoever, and humanity as such is not, also, even if civilization is (and computers may be in danger too).

The Masters, in their Letters, besides HPB and W. Judge, foretold some of the changes we may be about to see, and which are living already.

Since the 1970s, many ecologists have started to add their voices to it. Not to mention Edgar Cayce, etc.

Best regards, Carlos.





From: "krsanna" <timestar@timestar.org>
Reply-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Theos-World Re: Adyar's "Irrelevancy" & Our Planet
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 20:41:25 -0000

Carlos -- I hear what you say, and I see the factual existence of
events that only 10 years ago scientists did not believe was
possible, not to mention likely.  Arctic ice has been melting at an
unprecedented rate that in 1997.  If you read carefully, you will
find that scientists really did not believe the current melt rate
was possible.

When anyone can predict the cyclic events with even a modicum of
accuracy, I will trust that person's judgment about the
environmental condition.  I have been forecasting events with the
proto-Mayan calendar for over a decade and have a pretty good track
record.

In 1997-98, I predicted unprecedented melting of the ice caps after
a series of cycles in the Mayan calendar suggested polar areas were
a focus.  In 1998, I identified the location of the where the
December 26, 2004 earthquake was likely to occur.

Best regards,
Krsanna

--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "carlosaveline cardoso aveline"
<carlosaveline@...> wrote:
>
>
> Krsanna,
>
> There is no possibility that the planet will die.
>
> This is out of the question.
>
> Long, long  before the planet stopping being necessary for our
evolution,
> everyone will be Adept, and I mustll tell you: I haven't attained
> adepthood yet.
>
> I am ashamed to say so, but I am still a mere aspirant to to lay
> discipleship!
>
> So, WAIT !!!  I need this soil here!
>
> The only thing that is at stake is, perhaps, a sub-race crisis.  I
don't
> think it is a race crisis.
>
> The crisis of a sub-race (fifth subrace in the fifth race)  may be
an ugliy
> thing to live, but has NOTHING  to do with the death of a planet,
if we read
> anything about Theosophy.
>
> And perhaps it is sub a crisis of a sub-subrace, or " family"
crisis, or
> civilization crisis.
>
> Now, within this civilization of ours, you know that every
generation has
> the humble habit to describe itself as "perhaps the last one", as
the
> generation which will "make or break".  Holy Modesty!  And this
has been
> going on for thousands of years.
>
>
> Now,what about the practical use of understanding the  history of
the
> theosophical movement?
>
> Well, in order to face our planetary crisis,  it is useful to
understand the
> movement, since it is an instrument ( I said 'a', not 'the'
instrument )
> created to help prepare next civilizations at a subtle level.
>
> Thus the relevancy of Narada TS' own history and tradition, for
instance.
>
> Only by understanding what is true and false in the history of the
movement
> we will be able to rescue the movement as a better intrument to
serve human
> progress in the future.
>
>
> Best regards and long life to the planet!   Carlos.
>
>
>
> >From: "krsanna" <timestar@...>
> >Reply-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> >To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: Re: Theos-World Adyar's irrelevancy
> >Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 17:22:12 -0000
> >
> >Electricity and magnetism are the twins of physicality.
> >Instantaneous electronic and computer capabilities changed the way
> >the world thinks.  Individuals who grew up playing computers
games,
> >now in their 30's, perceive the world in different terms than, for
> >instance, my father's generation.  My father was born in a sod hut
> >in 1918, and the realities of the electronic world were largely
> >outside his purview of the world.
> >
> >The problems these kids must deal with are beyond anything
> >Theosophists who set the pace for this century – Olcott, Besant,
and
> >Leadbeater – ever imagined.  Take a look at the article below on
> >irreversible climate changes associated with the failure of Arctic
> >ice to re-form.
> >
> >The absurdity of Besant's "Coming" is a frivolous, if not obscene,
> >concern in view of the exigencies of keeping the planet alive,
> >largely as a result of arrogant misuse and abuse of the
environment
> >at the hands of the "old" guys.  I am ashamed of the mess my
> >generation (Baby Boomer) is turning over to the Digital
generation.
> >
> >In this environment, the National Director of Education at TSA
> >questioned, "Should Christmas be saved?" in the National Lodge's
> >first issue of their first elist.  The culture is outgrowing
> >Christmas.  (It's about time!!!)  ONE TSA MEMBER SUGGESTED
CHRISTMAS
> >SHOULD BE SAVED FOR THOSE PEOPLE WHO STILL NEED IT.  As the
society
> >begins to reject Christianized dogma, and TSA members have stepped
> >forward to save it for those who still need it.
> >
> >I believe HPB's cyclic model will be useful in "life and death"
> >environmental issues.   That's why I keep talking about cycles and
> >timewaves.  I backed into Theosophy looking for anything available
> >on cycles after I had worked with the Mayan calendar more than a
> >decade.
> >
> >Best regards,
> >Krsanna
> >
> >CLIMATE CHANGE `IRREVERSIBLE' AS ARCTIC SEA ICE FAILS TO RE-FORM
> >By Steve Connor, Science Editor
> >Published: 14 March 2006
> >Sea ice in the Arctic has failed to re-form for the second
> >consecutive winter, raising fears that global warming may have
> >tipped the polar regions in to irreversible climate change far
> >sooner than predicted.
> >
> >Satellite measurements of the area of the Arctic covered by sea
ice
> >show that for every month this winter, the ice failed to return
even
> >to its long-term average rate of decline. It is the second
> >consecutive winter that the sea ice has not managed to re-form
> >enough to compensate for the unprecedented melting seen during the
> >past few summers.
> >
> >Scientists are now convinced that Arctic sea ice is showing signs
of
> >both a winter and a summer decline that could indicate a major
> >acceleration in its long-term rate of disappearance. The greatest
> >fear is that an environmental "positive feedback" has kicked in,
> >where global warming melts ice which in itself causes the seas to
> >warm still further as more sunlight is absorbed by a dark ocean
> >rather than being reflected by white ice…
> >
> >Dr Serreze said that some parts of the northern hemisphere
> >experienced very low temperatures this winter, but the Arctic was
> >much warmer than normal. "Even in January, when there were
actually
> >record low temperatures in Alaska and parts of Russia, it was
still
> >very warm over the Arctic Ocean," he said.
> >
> >-- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "M K Ramadoss" <mkr777@> wrote:
> > >
> > > On 3/16/06, Drpsionic@ <Drpsionic@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > In a message dated 3/16/2006 7:35:32 AM Central Standard
Time,
> > > > timestar@ writes:
> > > >
> > > > The  internet by itself has done much to make Adyar
irrelevant.
> >I'm
> > > > more  interested in the terms of the Young Theosophists that
I
> >am in
> > > > trying to  rescue the elder generation.  The older generation
> >will
> > > > disappear and  return to seek truth in new cultural terms.
> > > >
> > > > In  the
> > > > rapidly becoming old days, groups and organizations were
> >necessary
> > > > because  the
> > > > means of communication made them necessary.  That may no
longer
> >be
> > > > the  case.
> > > >
> > > > Chuck the Heretic
> > > >
> > >
> > > Amen.
> > > Transportation and communication are some of the key factors
that
> >have
> > > changed the world for good, much to the chagrin of the older
> >generation.
> > >
> > > mkr
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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