Hello Daniel
Feb 09, 2006 10:22 AM
by carlosaveline cardoso aveline
Dear Daniel, dear friends,
Peace.
I will try to help Daniel with his question.
I have questioned the responsible people at Adyar TS, starting with Betty
Bland, who obviously have an influence onver TPH, about the Annie Besant
"Secret Doctrine". When I have the time I may write to the TPH itself.
What about you, Daniel? Did you question "The Theosophy Company" about the
issue you are raising? When was it?
If you did not raise the issue to them yet, why are you raising it to me
now? I do not live in Los Angeles. I live inm Brazil. And, besides and I
am not the diretor of "The Theosophy Co." Then, write to them, please, and
you shall have your due answer.
Yet I wonder whether your interest in the issue is authentic -- or it is
just a question of tit-for-tat?
Let me know when you write to the proper persons, if you are really
interested in the matter.
Kind regards, Carlos.
From: "danielhcaldwell" <danielhcaldwell@yahoo.com>
Reply-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Theos-World Dallas Gives His View on the Tampering Issue involving
the VOICE OF THE SILENCE
Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 17:41:22 -0000
Dallas,
I asked Carlos:
"Does Carlos acknowledge that these are mistakes that the ULT/
Theosophy Company has committed?"
To this question, you apparently answered:
==========================================
Nonsense !
Carlos A has nothing to do with this debate, which dried up in 2004.
Portions of this discussion are reprinted below.
He has nothing to do with Theosophy Company, and its publications.
The sole aim of the Theosophy Company is to make copies of original
texts [ "Eye Doctrine" ] available to students. It leaves those
same students to seek for the imbedded "Heart Doctrine."
But this whole subject is being reopened for what purpose ?
====================================================================
But Dallas, my comments are VERY relevant in 2006 because Carlos has
seen fit to bring the general subject of tampering up again in his
letter to Betty Bland, the president of the Wheaton TS.
I will requote part of what he said in his letter dated Jan 6, 2006
to Betty Bland:
"In time I hope the Adyar TS will come to publicly
acknowledge and debate other mistakes it made.
"A few, selected examples:
"1. The tampering with the first edition of The Secret Doctrine,
until the ULT published the first facsimile edition in 1925...."
[The Aquarian Theosophist, March 17, 2006.]
Now what is Carlos saying here?
It would appear that Carlos believes that the Adyar TS has tampered
with the SD and that is a MISTAKE. He even wants the Adyar TS to
publicly acknowledge this tampering and that this was a mistake.
Furthermore, we gather that the ULT did not tamper with the SD but
in fact published the first facsimile edition of HPB's 1888 original
SD in 1925.
Therefore I wanted to know if Carlos believed that the Theosophy
Company committed a MISTAKE when they issued a "tampered" version of
HPB's THE VOICE OF THE SILENCE.
Or as I phrased it in one of my postings:
If it [tampering] was wrong in the case involving THE SECRET
DOCTRINE, then is it not wrong in the case of THE VOICE OF THE
SILENCE?
Or as I phrased it in another posting:
What is sauce for the goose (Adyar TS/Theosophical Publishing House)
is sauce for the gander (ULT/Theosophy Co.)??
Should we hold both organizations/publishing companies to the
SAME standard when criticizing editions of HPB's writings issued
by these publishers/societies?
Now, Dallas, you say Carlos "has nothing to do with Theosophy
Company, and its publications."
Well, so what?
I could ask with as much relevance: does Carlos have anything to do
with the Adyar TS and its publications???
He has written of late that he is an associate now of the ULT,
therefore I was simply asking, if he is not pleased with the
tampering done to the SD by the Adyar TS, and has felt moved to even
write at least one letter to Betty Bland inwhich this is one of the
issues he wants her to think about, etc. etc, then does he approve
or disapprove of the tampering done in the VOICE as published by the
Theosophy Company?
Or does he have a double standard which in effect says:
"Well it is a MISTAKE for the Adyar TS to do this tampering and they
should publicly acknowledge it and discuss it, etc. but well the
Theosophy Company I don't hold to the same standard. It is okay for
them to issue a version of HPB's mystical classic which has been
tampered with."
Dallas, you also write:
"The sole aim of the Theosophy Company is to make copies of original
texts [ "Eye Doctrine" ] available to students. It leaves those
same students to seek for the imbedded 'Heart Doctrine.' "
Well, Dallas this would be good if it was totally true.
But the Theosophy Company did NOT reprint HPB's original 1889 text
of the Voice but instead issued a version which has hundreds of
changes to HPB's original text. And no where in the printed volume
is there a note or notice indicating that such editing or (to use
the word Carlos used)"tampering" has been done.
Based on my original postings years ago on this subject, it would
appear that Jerome Wheeler and Peter Merriott later discovered that
the Theosophy Company text of the VOICE has editing and corrections
made not only by Judge, but also by Mead and Besant!
!!!
So in light of the tampering done to the VOICE in said edition, are
you yourself willing to admit that it was a mistake for the
Theosophy Company to publish this volume and on top of it, not to
alert readers that editing, changes, tampering (I used Carlos'
word here) has been done.
Since you are a director on the board of the Theosophy Company, I
would think that you have a responsibility to consider these issues
I have brought up.
Maybe a typed note should be pasted on the title page of all
remaining unsold copies of the Theosophy Company's edition of the
VOICE which reads something like:
This edition embodies hundreds of changes made apparently by
William, Q. Judge, G.R.S. Mead and Annie Besant. This reprint is
not a faithful copy of HPB's original edition and was not authorized
by HPB.
So in light of the above, what does one make of what you yourself
wrote several years ago:
"In U.L.T. I don't have t[o] worry -- the originals are
available on a reliable basis. . . . Personally I would
rather deal with H.P.Blavatsky's 'mistakes' than with those created
by others who have had the temerity to believe they knew better than
she did, and had the audacity to introduce changes which she did not
authorize. Strong language, but true if it is applicable."
Personally I don't like the tampering done to the text of the SD but
I don't like the tampering done to the VOICE either.
Daniel
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