Theos-Talk Archives (December 2005 Message tt00217)

Lenny,
I feel sorry for Annand, and his inability to learn or to see beyond 
what passes as his point of view. Who taught him? and why ? This is perhaps 
the danger with cults or cult-like groups,who is controlling who?AND FOR 
WHAT PURPOSE? He does himself no favours nor Theosophy by his statements,but 
when he makes them they have to be challenged which exposes his flawed point 
of view and the more he labours the point the weaker his argument becomes 
and so dissipates its effect. It was George Bernard Shaw who once said of a 
critic " He has lost the art of conversation, but, unfortunatly not the 
power of speech!"
A sentiment that would apply in this case.I think I will contact someone at 
Aydar who will review these postings and activities, and hopefully have "a 
quiet word" and hopefully send him in the right direction.The Objects of 
Theosophy are clearly not understood by Annand. Let us hope he will 
reflect on the path he is taken, lets us hope he can read the sign posts.
We must be patient with him, and show him kindness, from that he will learn 
to understand. It is our duty to make him a Theosophist.
cheers Iain
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <leonmaurer@aol.com>
To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 12:59 AM
Subject: Re: Theos-World Blavatsky's writing was the cause of . . . the TS 
(that's the truth)


Anand,
Why would Blavatsky (if she could even have such control after death -- 
which
she denied was possible) have played into your hands and allowed you to send
that inflammatory subject line more than one time?

Wouldn't it be more likely that it's your own Blavatsky-hating inner self
that is pushing your send button?

If so, your multiple posting and your apology appears to be another sly
propaganda* ploy designed to cause dissension among theosophists and pit 
brother
against brother. When are you going to stop this nonsense? By now, you 
have
lost all your credibility and cannot convince any sincere theosophy students
that anything you say is the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

Leonardo

*Adolph Hitler's propagandist, Joseph Goebbels said, "To make people believe
a lie all you have to do is repeat it over and over again." Another of his
tricks was to "imply a lie by telling the truth." It's the truth that 
since HPB
was the founding cause of the TS, every future action of it could be
attributed to that cause, even though no such action was intended by the 
founder. To
the discerning reader, the wording of the original subject line assertion
gives the lie away and exposes the evil intent. An intent of which the 
author
reverses by accusing others of the same crime, i.e., that all students of 
HPB
hate AB and CWL along with their pseudo theosophy. (Q.E.D.)



In a message dated 12/19/05 5:59:46 AM, AnandGholap@AnandGholap.org writes:


> I am sorry. Reply was not going, so I pressed button many times. It
> appears that it sent same post many times. Blavatsky might have done
> something.
>
> Anand Gholap
> --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "Anand Gholap" <AnandGholap@A..>
> wrote:
> >
> > Cass,
> >
> > > To look outside of Leadbeater and Besant into other cults,
> > >suggests that your spiritual needs are not being met by theformer.
> > > Cass
> >
> > I read some books of Rajnish before I even heard of TS and
> > Theosophy.
> > But philosophy of many other organizations did not satisfy me.
> > Later, I somehow came across Theosophical lodge. Then I read many
> > books of Besant, Leadbeater, Clara Codd and some other authors,
> they
> > completely satisfied me. So now I am happy.
> >
> > Anand Gholap
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Anand Gholap <AnandGholap@A...> wrote: Bart,
> > > In the city where HQ of Rajnish is located, he is not criticized
> > > much and they still have large number of followers. But as you
> > said,
> > > Osho Rajnish might still be criticized in some other parts of
> the
> > > world. Around 15 years back I bought and read some of his books,
> > but
> > > somehow I could not appreciate that much.
> > > Even if I don't accept philosophy of some of other organizations
> > > including that of Rajnish, I generally avoid to attack them.
> > >
> > > Anand Gholap
> > >
> > > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Bart Lidofsky wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Anand Gholap wrote:
> > > > > Many educated people follow Osho. He is no more criticized
> > much.
> > > >
> > > > If you educate a donkey, you still have a donkey. And he is
> > > certainly
> > > > criticized. He was a rapist and a CONVICTED bioterrorist.
> > > >
> > > > Bart



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