Theos-Talk Archives (June 2005 Message tt00069)

Maybe mesmerising powers...or they would not have so many followers.
Thatīs something.
And imo all the preachers in general they use their mesmerising powers through their eyes, words and thought...and independent of the church or order,priests and shepherds are always seen as a God or Jesus' representatives and all the fancy goods - by specific costumes or ' silly hats ' - are just ingredients to increase the psychological influence.

K
----- Original Message ----- 
From: M. Sufilight 
To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 2:09 AM
Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: HPB on Apostolic succession


Allright.
But, I still wonder why those LCC Bishop's are wearing those silly hats ?
Is it fashion of the year or DO they in fact have special powers even if you 
say they have not?



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M. Sufilight

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Perry Coles" <perrycoles@yahoo.com>
To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 3:41 AM
Subject: Theos-World Re: HPB on Apostolic succession


> Thanks Chuck and MKR
> I think the reason for HPB's statement may have been because
> apolostolic succession is a belief system that has tried to maintain
> power and authority by claiming a special spiritual status and power
> to 'forgive sins' and bestow 'spiritual grace'.
> A concept that is completely anathema to the idea of karma, and the
> idea that a priest can have a special spiritual link with the Christ
> or Buddhic principle through the exoteric enactment of a ritual is
> not only from a theosophical perspective unsustainable but goes
> against any sense of justice and lawfulness.
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> This teaching of priests having special powers is to me a fraud that
> needs to be exposed as it has enamored and glamorized people's minds
> in to subservience to external authorities rather than recognizing
> the internal Christ within that no priest needs to invoke on our
> behalf.
> Rituals while they can be used as meditations for transformation can
> also become crutches.
> It can be debated that the church no longer has this power over
> peoples minds, however the recent selection of the new Pope in Rome
> showed to me how much this sort of subservience people are still very
> much prone to giving to assumed authorities.
> (The gold and braiding and jewels are still a powerful tool it seems.)
>
> This is not to imply that some clergy are not committed and selfless
> workers on social issues and some like Bede Griffiths tried to open
> the church up to a more wider view of Christianity and other
> religions by taking a more theosophical approach, however still the
> above points have been the cause of many burnings and torture
> throughout history in order to maintain suppression of freedom of
> inquiry and stifle empowerment to the individual.
>
> While people are of course free to believe priests have these special
> powers and links it is also the right of those who don't to critique
> these beliefs that have entrapped peoples minds for centuries.
> HPB in her statement seemed to see this as quite important.
> This for me does not imply that a Priest can not be a theosophist but
> rather that the belief in priestly power can and should be questioned.
>
> Perry
>
> --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Drpsionic@a... wrote:
>> Years ago at Summer School, someone came up a with one of those
> bright ideas
>> that fly like an empty balloon and this one was to have us break up
> into
>> groups and someone would come up with a question for the rest of
> the group to
>> answer.
>>
>> Well, as luck (or someone else's bad karma) would have it, the
> person who
>> made up the question in our group was some poor fool heavily
> involved in the LCC
>> and his question was what did Theosophy think of "the saving blood
> of Jesus."
>>
>> Well, everyone else in the group was being polite and hemming and
> hawing and
>> then it came to my turn. By that time I was thoroughly disgusted
> and I looked
>> him square in the eye and said, "To quote HPB, 'FLAPDOODLE!'"
>>
>> Chuck the Heretic
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