Theos-Talk Archives (May 2005 Message tt00606)

Dallas or Pedro
Excuse me for the ignorance on this subject.
What is the relation, the link, between Adyar and the L C Church nowadays?
Who presently influence whom today?
----- Original Message ----- 
From: M. Sufilight 
To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 4:10 PM
Subject: Re: Theos-World Re:Those who study Blavatsky's writing become fundamentalists


Hallo Anand and all,

My views are:


Thanks for your answer.

But the in the quote by Blavatsky I emailed in my previous email
(An excerpt taken from this link : 
http://www.blavatsky.net/blavatsky/arts/OccultismVersusTheOccultArts.htm )
Blavatsky is not defining "AtmaVidya" as being the same as "Theosophy".
She is defining it as the basis of the various teachings, which forms what 
we can call - Theosophy.

So who is confusing who?

I have searched a long time for information on how The Liberal Catholic 
Church
can be said to use the AtmaVidya teachings mentioned by Blavatsky
in the above link. I have never gotten a answer from any at TS Adyar about 
this.
Maybe no answer - also is an answer. I think so.
Do you also think so Anand?

It is not that I do not respect that some people has done what they meant 
was the right thing to do.
But, I cannot not support something, - which is not build on a rock.
I ask as a theosophical friend - Where - is Leadbeaters Liberal Catholic 
Church teaching us about AtmaVidya as defined by Blavatsky?






from
M. Sufilight


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Anand Gholap" <AnandGholap@...>
To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 8:24 PM
Subject: Theos-World Re:Those who study Blavatsky's writing become 
fundamentalists


> Morten,
>> Anand wrote:
>> "Special thing about modern
>> > Theosophical movement is Annie Besant and Leadbeater gave IN
> DETAIL
>> > EXPLAINATION of laws of Nature."
>>
>> If we ask ourselves just one rethoric question:
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>> Where do Annie Besant and Leadbeater give out teachings on AtmaVidya
>> in detail using Blavatsky's definition of AtmaVidya / BrahmaVidya /
>> ParaVidya?
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> Terminology was standardised in order to avoid confusion. These were
> called later mostly as Theosophy. Teaching is in many books but I
> would recommend reading Introduction to Yoga by AB.
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>> Here is one place where Besant is doing quite well.
>>
>> It is true that Annie Besant wrote or held lectures about the isse.
>> The following is helpful to students:
>> "Theosophy and the Theosophical Society" BY Annie Besant
>> http://www.anandgholap.net/Theosophy_And_TS-AB.htm
>> (She also wrote a book named "The Wisdom of the Upanishads")
>>
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>> I didn't find anything by Leadbeater on AtmaVidya, BrahmaVidya or
> ParaVidya.
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> They use word Theosophy for these.
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>> Instead a lot of problems surrounding Leadbeater keep popping up
>
>> http://www.anandgholap.net/KH_Letter_To_CWL.htm
>> The year it was revceived is not given. Maybe someone could
>> help us on that one.)
>
> I added year. It was when he just joined TS. And one more letter is
> also there.
> Anand Gholap
>
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>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Anand Gholap" <AnandGholap@A...>
>> To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2005 8:12 PM
>> Subject: Theos-World Re:Those who study Blavatsky's writing become
>> fundamentalists
>>
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>> >
>> >> > Another thing is CWL and AB have shown problems in Blavatsky's
>> >> > writing in their usual polite manner. If you have read their
>> >> writings let me know where these have come. Otherwise read again
>> >> carefully in case you want to know them.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> They attempted to make complex teachings more available to a
> wider
>> >> readership, and if they succeeded in this or not is for anyone to
>> >> judge. They may have seen certain topics differently from her,
> but as
>> >> I said before the essence of their contribution upholds the core
>> >> principles as presented by HPB: the unity of all life, the
> lawfulness
>> >> of the universe and the evolutionary pilgrimage for every soul
>> >> towards full Self-identity.
>> >
>> > These basic principles were known for centuries. They are in
> Vedas,
>> > Upanishads, Shankaracharya's writing and writings of many yogis.
>> > Blavatsky does not deserve credit for that. Special thing about
> modern
>> > Theosophical movement is Annie Besant and Leadbeater gave IN
> DETAIL
>> > EXPLAINATION of laws of Nature. Greatness of TS is it gave
> details,
>> > broad principles were known for centuries but never written in
> such
>> > details and given to world.
>> >
>> > Anand Gholap
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