Theos-Talk Archives (May 2005 Message tt00604)

Hallo Anand and all,

My views are:


Thanks for your answer.

But the in the quote by Blavatsky I emailed in my previous email
(An excerpt taken from this link : 
http://www.blavatsky.net/blavatsky/arts/OccultismVersusTheOccultArts.htm )
Blavatsky is not defining "AtmaVidya" as being the same as "Theosophy".
She is defining it as the basis of the various teachings, which forms what 
we can call - Theosophy.

So who is confusing who?

I have searched a long time for information on how The Liberal Catholic 
Church
can be said to use the AtmaVidya teachings mentioned by Blavatsky
in the above link. I have never gotten a answer from any at TS Adyar about 
this.
Maybe no answer - also is an answer. I think so.
Do you also think so Anand?

It is not that I do not respect that some people has done what they meant 
was the right thing to do.
But, I cannot not support something, - which is not build on a rock.
I ask as a theosophical friend - Where - is Leadbeaters Liberal Catholic 
Church teaching us about AtmaVidya as defined by Blavatsky?






from
M. Sufilight


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Anand Gholap" <AnandGholap@AnandGholap.org>
To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 8:24 PM
Subject: Theos-World Re:Those who study Blavatsky's writing become 
fundamentalists


> Morten,
> > Anand wrote:
> > "Special thing about modern
> > > Theosophical movement is Annie Besant and Leadbeater gave IN
> DETAIL
> > > EXPLAINATION of laws of Nature."
> >
> > If we ask ourselves just one rethoric question:
> >
> > Where do Annie Besant and Leadbeater give out teachings on AtmaVidya
> > in detail using Blavatsky's definition of AtmaVidya / BrahmaVidya /
> > ParaVidya?
> Terminology was standardised in order to avoid confusion. These were
> called later mostly as Theosophy. Teaching is in many books but I
> would recommend reading Introduction to Yoga by AB.
>
>
> > Here is one place where Besant is doing quite well.
> >
> > It is true that Annie Besant wrote or held lectures about the isse.
> > The following is helpful to students:
> > "Theosophy and the Theosophical Society" BY Annie Besant
> > http://www.anandgholap.net/Theosophy_And_TS-AB.htm
> > (She also wrote a book named "The Wisdom of the Upanishads")
> > I didn't find anything by Leadbeater on AtmaVidya, BrahmaVidya or
> ParaVidya.
>
> They use word Theosophy for these.
>
> > Instead a lot of problems surrounding Leadbeater keep popping up
> > http://www.anandgholap.net/KH_Letter_To_CWL.htm
> > The year it was revceived is not given. Maybe someone could
> > help us on that one.)
> I added year. It was when he just joined TS. And one more letter is
> also there.
> Anand Gholap
>
>
>
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Anand Gholap" <AnandGholap@A...>
> > To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2005 8:12 PM
> > Subject: Theos-World Re:Those who study Blavatsky's writing become
> > fundamentalists
> >
> >
> > >
> > >> > Another thing is CWL and AB have shown problems in Blavatsky's
> > >> > writing in their usual polite manner. If you have read their
> > >> writings let me know where these have come. Otherwise read again
> > >> carefully in case you want to know them.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> They attempted to make complex teachings more available to a
> wider
> > >> readership, and if they succeeded in this or not is for anyone to
> > >> judge. They may have seen certain topics differently from her,
> but as
> > >> I said before the essence of their contribution upholds the core
> > >> principles as presented by HPB: the unity of all life, the
> lawfulness
> > >> of the universe and the evolutionary pilgrimage for every soul
> > >> towards full Self-identity.
> > >
> > > These basic principles were known for centuries. They are in
> Vedas,
> > > Upanishads, Shankaracharya's writing and writings of many yogis.
> > > Blavatsky does not deserve credit for that. Special thing about
> modern
> > > Theosophical movement is Annie Besant and Leadbeater gave IN
> DETAIL
> > > EXPLAINATION of laws of Nature. Greatness of TS is it gave
> details,
> > > broad principles were known for centuries but never written in
> such
> > > details and given to world.
> > >
> > > Anand Gholap
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
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