Theos-Talk Archives (March 2005 Message tt00296)

Dear Perry
I think your idea of a petition is a good idea. One voice or a series of one voices are often pushed to the bottom of the in tray. Karmically however I think we must be very clear on our motives . How do we ensure that this action, if it was successful, may cause thousands to turn away from Theosophy by regarding it as just another cult with fake gurus. The baby with the bathwater syndrome.

It parallels the Jesus story. After his death or absence, those left to spread the word, assumed authoritarianship over it, and what made sence to the followers 2000 years ago, now makes no sence to those that inherited those words. Hence the decay and decline of catholicism.

What will be the effect on Theosophy if CWL is deposed, on the grounds of paedophilia and corruption of the truth? Does Theosophy have to be deposed to ensure that truth prevails as the ancient wisdom?

Cass

Perry Coles <perrycoles@yahoo.com> wrote:


Here's the email address again

intl.hq@ts-adyar.org
or go to
http://www.ts-adyar.org/

Perry
--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "Perry Coles" 

wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello Cass,
> The email address for the Adyar headquarters is
> intl.hq@t...
> 
> I think its only through persistence that any change will ever 
result.
> It can only come as a result of the grass roots members and 
students 
> who keep on challenging and demanding for this outrageous 
censorship 
> to cease. 
> Maybe through some kind of a petition perhaps?
> This type of thing would be democracy in action.
> 
> Trouble is most members are not aware that this situation exists so 
> the leadership get away with it.
> 
> Perry
> 
> 
> --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Cass Silva 
wrote:
> > Dear Perry
> > The Beuracracy has established its point, in its opinion, I 
suggest 
> that you post the email address of Radha Burnier to all the members 
> of theos group so that we can stand as one in relation to the CWL 
> issue. I think it is time that they become accountable and offer 
> their proof that he was not a paedophile.
> > Cass
> > Perry Coles 
wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > Hello All,
> > Late last year I sent an email to the International President of 
> the 
> > Theosophical Society (Adyar) Radha Burnier .
> > I have just received a 'reply'.
> > This was sent as a way of hopefully receiving some clarification 
> for 
> > myself and the group as to the Adyar's societies policy on 
> publishing 
> > articles that compare the teachings of CWL and Annie Besant with 
> > those of H P B and the Mahatma's.
> > Below is my email to her and below that is her 'response' to me.
> > 
> > Perry
> > 
> > -------------------
> > 
> > Dear Dr. Burnier
> > 
> > The international, internet discussion group, theos-talk has over 
> two 
> > hundred members who contribute to broad ranging discussions on 
> > theosophy and its study on a daily basis. 
> > 
> > A current and ongoing topic of investigation includes the 
apparent 
> > contradictions between the theosophical teachings of H.P. 
Blavatsky 
> > and her teachers and the subsequent writings of Annie Besant and 
> C.W. 
> > Leadbeater, two of your most notable later members.
> > 
> > In seeking further information on this matter, it has been 
> suggested 
> > that your Society allegedly disallows articles which compare 
these 
> > writings, in your official publications and journals. 
> > 
> > Would this be accurate and if so, would it therefore be an 
> > international ruling binding on all Sections and Lodges?
> > 
> > Your kind assistance in clarifying this matter will be greatly 
> > appreciated.
> > 
> > Regards
> > 
> > Perry Coles
> > 
> > ---------------------------------------------------------
> > 
> > 
> > Dear Mr Coles,
> > 
> > I received a copy of your communication of 24 January 2005 
> regarding 
> > C.W.Leadbeater and offer some comments for what they are worth 
for 
> > your consideration. No answer is solicited.
> > 
> > A number of your statements are based on incomplete information 
or 
> > no knowledge, for instance the accusation of his being a 
pedophile. 
> > Some of us happen to know what you cannot possibly know. These 
> > accusations are entirely untrue as testified to by members of 
worth 
> > who worked with him for years and were close to him. Statements 
> based 
> > on hearsay or printed material circulated by frustrated or 
> malicious 
> > individuals do not prove anything. It is untheosophical to go on 
> > repeating them. 
> > 
> > The TS does not demand belief of any kind. Everyone is free to 
> > decide what is authentic and whom to read. There can be no 
> authority 
> > to declare who or what is credible. The TS upholds the policy 
that 
> > every person has freedom to think and say what he considers to be 
> of 
> > value, within the limits of courtesy. 
> > 
> > Your question about what is the power that Leadbeater holds over 
> his 
> > supporters is in my view a wrong question. People can read 
> Leadbeater 
> > and consider what he says, without being his supporters or the 
> > supporters of anyone else. 
> > 
> > With best wishes,
> > 
> > Yours sincerely,
> > 
> > Radha Burnier
> > ..........................................
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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