Rasputin, Re: Proofs
Feb 02, 2005 06:36 AM
by stevestubbs
--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "Konstantin Zaitzev"
<kay_ziatz@y...> wrote:
> I have read somewhere than Papus was F.T.S. and even a head of the
> French
> section. Is it true?
Yes. Papus was a natural leader, not only in the French TS but also
the Martinist Order, the Rosicrucians, and loads of other groups
whose names escape me at the moment. He broke with the TS because of
a sense in France that they needed to get more Western and away from
the Eastern orientation of the TS. The Martinist Order especially
was French, so Papus became renovateur de l'ordre Martiniste en
France.
> I see his influence as rather positive for he tried to prevent
> Russia's participation in
> WW1
Probably true, but Rasputin was a very eccentric source of positive
influence. Trying to heal that kid of hemophilia with prayer is
pretty far out. Probably worth a try, though.
> It is interesting that he has made the similar prediction.
> He said that he will
> be killed, and then the Czar will be killed also, and if he
(Rasputin)
> will be killed by a
> man of nobility, all the monarchy will come to the end.
That is interesting. Sort of like Louis-Philippe. Apre mois le
deluge. That may have been a standard claim of impostors trying to
curry favor with the royal house then.
> Though the main reason was, of course, not the imperfect magic, but
> stupidity of the
> Czar. In the last years many memoirs were printed which were before
in
> archives or
> magazines printed abroad by emirgants, and from them I conclude
that
> he was even
> worse than soviet propaganda pictured him.
Well, yes, the claim of Papus was not that his magic would cause the
monarchy to collapse, but that it would fail to protect the Czar upon
his death. So his claim does not contradict but rather supports what
you said. Whether Papus' magical claims were true or not is
impossible to say but it makes a good spook story.
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