Theos-Talk Archives (January 2005 Message tt01102)

Dear Dallas

When this information is given to the masses, then the individual cannot be held to a vow of privacy or secrecy. If things were to be kept secret shouldn't they have been passed down by word of mouth? Why do you feel it a curiousity that some of us should raise questions? Many of us have thoroughly studied the recorded original teachings of Theosophy and many of us have different interpretations, to question and debate those interpretations should lead to a comprehensive understanding for all. If Theosophy is a Brotherhood then all should share in the knowledge, even those that may be considered unworthy. Who are we to judge who is worthy and who isnt. Theosophy will stand or fall on its own. I believe that Theosophy touches the heart, not the intellect, and therefore cannot misguide.

Cass


"W.Dallas TenBroeck" <dalval14@earthlink.net> wrote:


Jan 30 2005

Dear Friends:

May I observe?

An observation was made: "as far as I understand the historical evolution
of humanity - this use of letters by a Master was not uncommon or wrong back
then. When the circumstances called for a physical letter to be given to a
young chela it happened. Not all chelas got letters back then. - They were
perhaps given from time to time when a chela had doubt about an impression
given by the Master using telepathy ..."


I don't think we are in a position after all these years to question the
actions or letters from the Mahatmas to specific students (not to us, nor
in our condition).

So why not take the position of observers? And as such we have to look at
ALL that has been so far recorded (and we may assume that much has not been
recorded, nor are we privileged to expect to see more.) 

In fact I would say we are seeing material never meant for the average
student's eye. 

>From several of the statements made by those Great WRITERS -- They asked for
privacy and secrecy to be observed. We now see it has been violated -- for
one reason or another -- and the curiosity of (we) the side-sitters, is not
easily appeased. 

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I would like to make a few observations:

1 If we have not thoroughly studied the recorded original teachings of
THEOSOPHY we have very little basis to go on. 

We need to grasp the fundamentals, and apply them in our thought and efforts
to understand our lives, and those of others, as we all experience them
together in that single vast BROTHERHOOD that was, IS and WILL BE this
Universe, (and this includes our Earth and ourselves). 

2 The Spiritual Immortality of all beings (whether they be named
mesons, electrons, atoms, molecules, skandhas, monads, humans, chelas,
gurus, Mahatmas, Buddhas, planets or galaxies lies at the immutable,
spiritual CORE-BASIS of their existence. That is in th control of the
Universe and its potent agents. 

3 The whole Universe is efficiently run on Laws -- and one of these:
the MORAL LAW of COMPENSATION (KARMA) is an absolute essential component,
and cannot be evaded, even by the cleverest and sliest Kama-Manas. 

4 Every being is at a school (reincarnation or reembodiment) where the
Universe provides lessons [as effects invariably follow causes] and every
circumstance of our lives are opportunities for self-progress. Our past
choices are reflected in our circumstances of "today," or of "tomorrow." 

For us to be able to read (and make hazardous conclusions) based on our
scanty knowledge of occult and esoteric systems and laws, is simply a waste
of time and may delude others. Our knowledge is inadequate.

If we have come to THEOSOPHY to learn, then lets do that. That is our first
responsibility.

Who am I to say this? No one but a fellow student, with our conjoined
progress and goodwill in mind. I will also say that thee is an enormous
amount we can learn all together.

Best wishes, 

Dallas

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-----Original Message-----
From: M. S
Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2005 2:14 AM
To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: Checked by the Master


My views are:


Cass wrote:

"> I also have problems with the Masters, sending letters to students to 
advise them that they have been accepted as a disciple or a Chela's of a 
certain Master. My belief is that when the student is ready the Master is 
there, and that instruction can be given when we are out of our bodies, e.g.

in sleep. The necessity to be in their presence is only required when the 
pupil has acquired a certain level on the path."

My answer:

Well, as far as I understand the historical evolution of humanity - this use

of letters by a Master was not uncommon or wrong back then. When the 
circumstances called for a physical letter to be given to a young chela it
happened. Not all chelas got letters back then. - They were perhaps given
from time to time when a chela had doubt about an impression given by the
Master using telepathy or another kind of ESP.

Today we have a different situation - especially because of the informations

technology we use and the higher level of knowledge among the average
citizens today.

Back then only few were able to read the papers. And books like The Isis 
Unveiled and The Secret Doctrine was just too far out to be read by most 
people.

A book being published back then would be bought and sold in a quite 
different manner than today. The knowledge about it would also spread in a 
different manner. The same with the spread of the latest news and knowledge 
about what happened in government and in science in one country compared to 
another. It would take more time and happen to a lesser amount. And since 
fewer people were able to read and understand the texts fewer would hear 
about it.

Today communication is much more easy, because of the use of our 
informations-technology. Communication is faster and the level of knowledge 
is higher. And the world is more complex in more than one sense.

CUT 





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