Theos-Talk Archives (January 2005 Message tt01095)

Dear Sufilight
You say that,
Today communication is much more easy, because of the use of our 
informations-technology. Communication is faster and the level of 
knowledge is higher. And the world is more complex in more than one sense.

My view is, that today a Master would still be using a letter or the 
modern e-mail from time to time. But most often only by telepahthically use 
(or similar) suggesting to a chela to write or email something to a person 
in need. So they more seldom make (Mahatma or similar) letters today, 
simply because of our present spread of the Informations society on this 
planet.
 
It doesnt answer my query in relation to the Master being able to transmit or teach through the astral. Are you saying that if a Master saw someone in need on one of these study groups that he would impress a Chela's mind with a solution to the problem?
 
Cass  


"M. Sufilight" <global-theosophy@stofanet.dk> wrote:

My views are:


Cass wrote:
"> I also have problems with the Masters, sending letters to students to 
advise them that they have been accepted as a disciple or a Chela's of a 
certain Master. My belief is that when the student is ready the Master is 
there, and that instruction can be given when we are out of our bodies, e.g. 
in sleep. The necessity to be in their presence is only required when the 
pupil has acquired a certain level on the path."

My answer:
Well, as far as I understand the historical evolution of humanity - this use 
of letters by a Master was not uncommon or wrong back then. When the 
circumstances
called for a physical letter to be given to a young chela it happened. Not 
all chelas got letters back then. - They were perhaps given from time to 
time when a chela had doubt about an impression given by the Master using 
telepathy or another kind of ESP.

Today we have a different situation - especially because of the informations 
technology we use and the higher level
of knowledge among the average citizens today.
Back then only few were able to read the papers. And books like The Isis 
Unveiled and The Secret Doctrine was just too far out to be read by most 
people.
A book being published back then would be bought and sold in a quite 
different manner than today. The knowledge about it would also spread in a 
different manner. The same with the spread of the latest news and knowledge 
about what happened in government and in science in one country compared to 
another. It would take more time and happen to a lesser amount. And since 
fewer people were able to read and understand the texts fewer would hear 
about it.

Today communication is much more easy, because of the use of our 
informations-technology. Communication is faster and the level of knowledge 
is higher.
And the world is more complex in more than one sense.

My view is, that today a Master would still be using a letter or the modern 
e-mail from time to time. But most often only by telepahthically use (or 
similar) suggesting to a chela to write or email something to a person in 
need. So they more seldom make (Mahatma or similar) letters today, simply 
because of our present spread of the Informations society on this planet.

But, that is just my view.

(And to let some of the readers know: I use the word Master with a big "M" 
to denote that I am talking about a spiritual or theosophical Master.)

And let me assure Perry Coles and others that Jesus was a real deal.
I know.
I am not believeing this. I know it.
HPB also knew.


I came across this website today.
http://www.ridhwan.org
What is the difference between this organisation and the theosophical 
teachings ?


from
M. Sufilight with peace and love...


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Cass Silva" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2005 5:24 AM
Subject: Re: Theos-World Checked by the Master


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> Dear Perry
> My understanding of the Lord Maitreya is that it is pure spirit, and only 
> incarnates for a few years in a body. The body of Jesus was used (his 
> spiritual faculties held in abeyance) by Maitreya for 3 years, from Jesus' 
> age of 30 to 33. These years were used by Maitreya to bring a new 
> understanding of religion to mankind. I believe CWL and AB believed that 
> Krishnamurti would be the body that Maitreya would use, hence the need for 
> purity at all levels. So I do not see how the Lord Maitreya would have 
> been available to edit something as trivial as this. Maitreya has taken 
> the 7th initiation and is line with a Manu of a new race. My teachings 
> say
> Silent Watcher 10th initiation
> Lord of the World 9th initiation
> Pratyeka Buddah 8th initiation
> Manu 7th initiation
> Chohan 6th initiation
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> I personally have problems with the Masters editing anything at a physical 
> level. Why do this when they can source the information directly from the 
> mind? My gut instinct tells me that some theosophists chose to namedrop 
> the Masters to validate the new teachings.
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> I also have problems with the Masters, sending letters to students to 
> advise them that they have been accepted as a disciple or a Chela's of a 
> certain Master. My belief is that when the student is ready the Master is 
> there, and that instruction can be given when we are out of our bodies, 
> e.g. in sleep. The necessity to be in their presence is only required 
> when the pupil has acquired a certain level on the path.
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> Some theosophists have made of the Masters, super-human men. The Masters 
> have spiritual work to do in the world and I cannot see why they would 
> spend their time writing to their disciples. HPB was insistent that her 
> teachings came from a higher source than herself, and in order to validate 
> this, reference to them was necessary, but that the masters would spend 
> the last 100 years appearing and channelling their teachings through 
> others, to me, is absurd.
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> Cass
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> "Therefore I took the typewritten copy which I had made to the Master
> Kuthumi and asked Him to be so kind as to read it over. He read it,
> altered a word or two here and there, added some connecting and
> explanatory notes and a few other sentences which I remembered having
> heard Him speak to Mr. Krishnamurti. Then He said: "Yes, that seems
> correct; that will do" ; but He added : "let us show it to the Lord
> Maitreya." And so we went together,"
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> Masters & the Path p.175
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> Notice how the Master read over & "CORRECTED" this manuscript and then
> showed it to the "Lord Maitreya" as well.
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> Why would the Mahatma's not have pointed out to Leadbeater(whom he
> claims to be in such close personal contact with) that the teachings
> he was puting in his textbooks and manuals as being the teachings of
> the Adept Brotherhood actually didn't match with their own?
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