Theos-Talk Archives (January 2005 Message tt00224)

Here tis
Cass
 
No, I was speaking about terms not being taken in a direct literal
sense but instead making an attempt at understanding what is trying
to be conveyed. To grasp a concept that lies beyond the literal
word. I have no issue with the use of the word THAT in what you
had stated. I understand the meaning behind it's usage. The same
consideration can be taken in my usage of the word "view".

I was replying to the comments made of it's usage :
"There is no such THING as THE Absolute. So how can we talk about it
viewing or being viewed?"

This seems to be an example of not attempting to look and understand
of what was trying to be conveyed, but taking a literal definition and 
meaning
of a term in which was not meant in the communication. One can speak in
a manner of a metaphor and another condemn the usage of the words 
because
of taking the words in a direct literal sense instead of the meaning 
behind
the words in which was trying to be conveyed.
If one does not understand what one is attempting to communicate, then
one can ask what is meant, as this would be a response given in the 
spirit
of communication and sharing.

Individuals have different modes and ways of communicating and manners
of speaking. I can not say I understand them all. Miscommunication and
misunderstandings can occur. Askance versus assumption can be a
method of maintaining more clarity when engaging in communication
with another.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Cass Silva" <silva_cass@yahoo.com>
To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 6:39 AM
Subject: Re: Theos-World A Question for the New Year



Do you mean, THAT and NOT THAT?
Cass

Zakk Duffany <zakkduffany@earthlink.net> wrote:

View does not mean a literal sight. A concept is a view. The Absolute 
has no
terms.
One must take into consideration a direction of meaning from the use of
words.
It is like the word "THAT". "THAT" represents a "thing". The Absolute 
is not
a "thing".
One goes beyond the literal meaning of "THAT" in order to grasp the 
concept.
"View" can also be taken in the same manner. One can substitute
"relationship" for
"view". As an example :

The Absolute is Relative in the relationship of the Relative.
The Relative is Absolute in the relationship of the Absolute.



----- Original Message ----- 
From:
To:
Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 3:48 AM
Subject: Re: Theos-World A Question for the New Year



Right. There is no such THING as THE Absolute. So how can we talk about 
it
viewing or being viewed?

In a message dated 01/09/05 12:32:51 AM, silva_cass@yahoo.com writes:

Perhaps the only thing that is Absolute, is THAT beyond the zero point.
PRALAYA?


Zakk Duffany wrote:


The Absolute is Relative when viewed by the Relative.

The Relative is Absolute when viewed by the Absolute.


Perspectives change with the standpoint of viewing.


----- Original Message ----- 

From:

To:

Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 9:48 PM

Subject: Re: Theos-World A Question for the New Year





In a message dated 01/08/05 3:38:29 PM, krishtar_a@brturbo.com writes:


>If the absolute evolves. it is not absolute.

>The absolute cannot evolve, or itīd be relative, and when there is

relativeness,

>we are not dealing with the absolute anymore.(qwack!)

>

>Krishtar


But, "The Absolute is Relative, and the Relative is Absolute." Didn't 
you

know that? It comes straught from the mouth of the Buddha, and was 
verified

later by HPB.


Leonardo

prmoliveira <prmoliveira@yahoo.com> wrote:


What was the question?


Pedro






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