Theos-Talk Archives (December 2004 Message tt00437)

Dear Cass,

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In a message dated 12/30/04 8:25:46 PM, silva_cass@yahoo.com writes:
>
>Dear Leon
>Will trying to find an answer to my questions on Devachan and reincarnating
>back to Earth, I came across this
>"No; there are no clocks, no timepieces in Devachan, my esteemed chela,
>though the whole Cosmos is a gigantic chronometer in one sense.
>Cass
>
>
>Cass Silva <silva_cass@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>Dear Leon
>Nothing to fret about when you put it like that. I bet I know what your
>first question will be !!!
>Cass
>ps had a quiet cackle over the jokes
>
>leonmaurer@aol.com wrote:
>
>Dear Cass,
>
>I wouldn't worry about it. When we shuck off this body and all its 
>inhibitive and noise making senses, we will hear the "Voice of the Silence" 
of the 
>thinker who thinks about us, and we can ask it anything we wish to... And, 
get a 
>straight answer directly from the horses mouth. 
>We also won't be lonely, since we'll be in the company of everyone we ever
>knew abd loved in our heart. Could they be in any other mind's thoughts than 
we 
>are in and always will be? Besides, we will have already worked through our 
>memory of this life and its karmic lessons the moment we shuffle off through
>the gate, and have plenty of time to ruminate about what we have to do
>in the next life to mediate the karma we left behind in this one. What more 
>verification of our own existence than that do we need?
>
>>From a scientific point of view, how can we be less than the absolute 
>zero-point and its surrounding infinite abstract motion or spinergy -- that 
must 
>always carry and retain in its patterns of vibrations the entire holistic 
memory 
>of all the thoughts and actions of whatever was, is, and will be? So, how 
can 
>our individual existence and its experiences ever be lost? When that 
pre-thought
> memory awakens, won't every individual ray of consciousness emanating from 
>it go back to wherever they left off during the last awakening -- to continue
>on from there? Could there be any other way, for any being that was 
>Omniscient, Omnipotent and Omnipresent, to carry on with the game of life?
>If not, then how could it and everything in it's memory, and later, 
thoughts, not
>exist forever -- even if only in its mind? 
>
>So, what's there to fret about?
>
>Leon
>
>
>In a message dated 12/28/04 9:02:09 PM, silva_cass@yahoo.com writes:
>
>>Dear Leon
>>
>>Another question,
>>
>>It seems to me that we, like IT, are in manifestation to "know that we
>>know ourselves". When we die and are in a purely subjective state we cannot
>>verify our own existence but only know that subjective state of all knowing
>>without verification (when we are dead). I am not looking forward to that,
>>a little centre of consciousness, ruminating on past lives and ,making
>>vows to "do things differently, next time", without being able to say to
>>someone, "Hey, what do you think?"
>>
>>>From a little point of consciousnessess point of view, I think it could
>>get pretty lonely being omniscient.
>>
>>Cass
>>
>>leonmaurer@aol.com wrote:
>>
>>Dear Cass, 
>>
>>Since you seem to get the point, I have no wonder about where you are
coming
>>from. You are right, the knowing flows in both directions, the manifestation
>>(us) must know itself while the self (it) that created the manifestation 
must 
>>know its creation. That is the nature of thought thinking within itself...
>>And, why we know we are conscious and know that we know we are conscious.
>>Thus, the thinker in us is the thought of the thinker who thought us up.
>>I hope that clears things up a bit about where I'm coming from. :-) 
>>
>>Leon 
>>