Theos-Talk Archives (December 2004 Message tt00438)

Hi
Just a comment on the possibility of contacting HPB...

IMO, HPB didnīt leave any shell avaiable for any medium or similar to contact and if it occurs itīd be a complete mystification.
HPB might probably have incarnated twice from that time on and not both incarnations under the same gender ( what I am certain of ).
I have the hability of chanelling but I honestly believe that 96% of the claimed chanelling in the world is a mixture of self-illusioned egos and mediums under a difererent label and the best way to contact beings of a highernature is not believing they come here to contact us.
Nothing the less by using a medium.
I mean that we have to raise our conscience to them and that demands self development not only morally but also purifying our conscience
We all know that the marvellous quote from the " The Voice of the silence" : Mind is the slayer of the real' means that while we are still strugglingin the world of Maia we will never know the reality.
Thatīs why I īve never developed a deeper state of chanelling, I donīt feel any secure about these siddhis.
All siddhis IMO are not meant to be concentrated on, but surpassed by the developing of our conscience till the state in which we are plainly conscious of what we really are.

Krishtar
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Cass Silva 
To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 10:37 PM
Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: re forms of Theosophical expression



Dear Mauri
I don't see how HPB could be in contact with anyone, as it goes against the rules. My understanding is that we, while on earth, can, under very, very, very special circumstances, send a ray of ourselves to Devachan. I am very unclear about this, but the Masters and HPB are continually stating that once disembodied, there is no return/contact with the living, only through the shell and only through a medium, which if it did occur, would contravene everything HPB said about the Spiritualists. That is why I question any Theosophical Member proposing a contact by a resurrection of the dead.
On the lighter side, I would like to meet the medium who would channel HPB or even HPB's shell!
Cass
   
   
   
That (a) the Jiv follows the divine monad that gives it spiritual life and immortality into Devachan--that therefore,it can neither be reborn beforeits appointed period, nor reappear on 
Earth visibly or invisibly in the interim; and (b) that, unless the fruition, the spiritual aroma of the Manas, or all these highest aspirations andspiritual qualities and attributes that constitute the higher SELF of man become united to its monad, the latter becomes as Non existent; since it isin esse "impersonal" and per se Ego-less, so to say, and gets its spiritual
colouring or flavour of Ego-tism only from each Manas during incarnation and
after it is disembodied, and separated from all its lower principles. 
   


Mauri <mhart@idirect.ca> wrote:


prmoliveira wrote:
> 
> --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Mauri wrote:
> 
> 
>>Sometimes I wish HPB were available for 
>>comment on these lists. Every so often 
>>I find myself wanting to send some 
>>speculative tangent her way in response 
>>to something she wrote. 
> 
> 
> How can you be sure she isn't? Why don't you send your speculative 
> tangents? *She* might reply.
> 
> 
> Pedro

Yes, *She* might reply, whoever/however 
"*She*" might be interpreted as these 
days, eh ... Anyway I already sent a 
bunch of posts out with some thoughts 
like that in mind.

^:-/ ...
Mauri







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