Theos-Talk Archives (December 2004 Message tt00053)

The only way we will have any communication of value is to seek to understand each other, not to attack every word, as though one is being attacked. If one talks from personal experience, then that experience is valid, regardless of another's view of it.

If we are to experience any sense of oneness, we make the effort to understand, which requires basic respect, and more than just tolerance.

I use the words specifically to mean 
a respect for all life
tolerance of those things that I do not like, believe or understand
understanding/acceptance of the suffering, which can be alleviated in my ability to seek to understand, or ACCEPT in the altruistic sense, not the agreement sense.

Yes, I did use acceptance in a special way, as in to embrace, symbolically, like the circle that contains the duality in the Ying Yang symbol.

Kristar picked up on it.

I am not a Christian cultist, as implied. Saved means to be redeemed of error, which is part of the practice of discernment, but this may be where some ts folks have no tolerance. 

>From a Taoist POV, dharma corrects karma, when we make mistakes, we seek to correct. Otherwise we learn and share our knowledge in a respectful, helpful way. 

When we are not truly helping one another understand, what are we doing? 
Regina


-- "krishtar" <krishtar_a@brturbo.com> wrote:

Semantics, concepts, correction, criticism.
Accept, understand, tolerate, consent..
So many words, one for each occasion.
Frankly, we all have different levels of understanding.




From: Bart Lidofsky 
To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 6:14 PM
Subject: Re: Theos-World RE: HPB on THEOSOPHISTS



krishtar wrote:
> It is plainly obvious that she didnīt mean this. Perhaps Regina
> didnīt use the correct word, what if she didnīt meant " accept" in
> the common sense but "understand", respect?

"Understand" and "respect" don't fit in with the rest of her sentence:

>> One and All, To me, the day when any one who calls himself a 
>> theosophist can actually accept the point of view of another,
>> without defense or offense in thought, word or deed, then we will
>> have the true spirit of what HPB, in her best intention, flaws and
>> all, was dedicated to accomplishing.

And, frankly, even "respect" does not make sense. At most, 
understanding and tolerance. I can understand a belief system that does 
not allow me to have my own; I can even tolerate it. But I'm not going 
to respect it. And there were plenty of religious beliefs H. P. 
Blavatsky did not respect, either.

Bart





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