Theos-Talk Archives (October 2004 Message tt00159)

Oct 7 2004

Dear Mark:

It seems to me that the progress in growing intelligence for every Monad in
manifestation, begins, as taught, in the 7-fold evolutionary scheme -- as an
immortal it begins in the depths of the "monadic essence" (whatever that may
be) [S D I 176, 178-9, 612, 632-3, II 109-19, ] 

It then passes through all the various stages of experience and development,
up to the human (mind) stage.

Thereafter its progress becomes self-regulated, employing the "will" and the
power of free choice. 

We are given a glimpse of the future possibilities of the evolving Monad as
it passes on -- [described in the last pages of The VOICE OF THE SILENCE ].

There are many gaps and much appears scattered, in the way of information,
if not left unsaid.

Personally, I prefer a "spiritual" future to a futile cessation of effort
and nullification of results that the death of the present physical body
would seem to entail.

Best wishes,


Dallas
 
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-----Original Message-----
From: Mark K 
Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 9:21 AM
To: 
Subject: Rocks and thought

Jerry (& Zaak) Wrote:

><< A rock is a thought in a manifested state.>>
>
>??? A rock is a host of monads in a particular collective arrangement that
>we label "rock." Its manas is dormant and so a rock has no thoughts. You
>are obviously using the word "thought" in some kind of special way, one
>that I do not understand.
>

It is "the particular collective arrangement" that is the operative 
phrase here.

What governs that particular arranging to produce & differentiate 
conventionally existant forms? What faculty or activity? How?

Perhaps this type of 'thought" is a reference to Blavatsky's notion of 
"Cosmic Ideation" or the contents thereof. Another way to put it might 
be to say this refers to the notion of classical Platonic 
"archetypes"(as contrasted with the Jungian psychological use of the 
term.... perhaps they are related.)

Where do the models for any manifested forms come from? Even if we 
acknowledge that they are mayavic and empty of inherent existance, they 
are temporary 'things" that man did not create. Whence comes the 
informing intelligence that guides the arrangement of monadic hosts that 
we label galaxies, solar systems, planets or any of the myriad 
geometries directing atoms to adhere, chemicals to bond, minerals to 
crystalize, vegetables to grow, etc? This may indeed be 'karma in 
action' or the 'activity of manas' as a creative naming function, but it 
definitely seems extended beyond the scale of conscious humanity.

While we all may conceptually acknowledge recognizing a particular 
arrangement as a "tree", for example, can anyone of us, as waking 
conscious personalities, claim to have created it? If you run into 
itwhile jogging or it falls on top of you in a storm, can you will it 
out of existance by simply calling it 'maya' or 'mind only?'

To merely attribute the forms of cosmic creation to karma or thought, 
especially at the human scale, seems a tad oversimplified, no?

Just wondering.
;-)