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Re: Theos-World for Mary and George (web link with simple image)

Oct 05, 2004 07:58 PM
by John, webmaster, www.MAZES.com, www.DriverExam.org, www.GodLovesEveryone.org


Ana,

I have posted a version of my previous e-mail for Mary and George here:
http://www.godloveseveryone.org/questions/reincarnation.htm

I have included a very rough diagram trying to substitute a picture for the thousand words that otherwise would be required (just teasing). And, as I created the page, I added words here and there, so it is an expanded response.

May I leave your words with this reply on my page. I plan to put a link to a new "questions and answers" index leading to it once I have your permission and Mary's permission to include the quoted material.

If either of you object, I'll paraphrase the quoted material, but leave my answer there.

John

----- Original Message ----- From: "John, webmaster, www.MAZES.com, www.DriverExam.org, www.GodLovesEveryone.org" <John@LiteracyCurriculums.com>
To: ""ana maria torra"" <amt@menta.net>
Cc: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 10:54 AM
Subject: Re: Theos-World for Mary and George




I have sent a copy of this message direct to Ana. I trust that this message
might also serve as an introduction to the rest of the group.

Hello, Ana, Mary and George,

I am not a theosophist, though I have attended quite a number of meetings at
the Ozark Theosophical Camp in Arkansas, and have been a member of this list
years ago under a different e-mail address, as I discovered when I was
googling my old AOL screen name and found
theos-talk.com/archives/200002/tt00059.html and
theosophy.com/theos-talk/199908/tt00069.html
and theosophy.com/theos-talk/199908/tt00073.html and
theos-talk.com/archives/199907/tt00006.html and
theos-talk.com/archives/199907/tt00026.html and
theos-talk.com/archives/199907/tt00034.html. I think I dropped out because
most of the discussions were over my head. Unfortunately, I don't live near
a discussion group, and in these days of oil prices, even a one hour drive
is a bit far.

I don't declare membership in any one point of view, but instead, consider
myself, as much as possible, to be part of all points of view. I created the
web page www.GodLovesEveryone.org as a statement of my belief that God loves
everyone, not just people in one minority point of view who have the
audacity to think that they have the only truth.

I have grown to believe that in our younger years, we have learned about the
soul a bit backward. We were taught that the soul was inside our body.

Instead, I believe that the body is inside our soul, and that it is our soul
that has infinite existence. The part of the soul that is in our body has
"forgotten" its connection to the rest of the soul, but it is still there.
The rest of the soul was always connected to that part of the soul in our
body, but we were often unaware of it, except during certain periods of
meditation or dreaming or whatever. When our body dies, that part of our
soul that we are aware of suddenly "remembers" and returns to join the rest
of the soul, which it never really left.

After an appropriate period of time in communion with our entire soul, and
in communion with the infinite being that some of us call God, I believe
that we again choose to accept another life here on Earth. The life we
receive is based on a discussion between our soul and God, where together,
we decide what lessons we need to learn (or learn better), and the life is
chosen for us so that our soul will grow to the greatest extent possible.

This all came to me between the time that one of my students (pre-teen) died
and the time of the funeral. At the funeral, I told the mother that I had
something that I felt that I was supposed to share with her and invited her
to visit me at the office later. She came by later, and I related a
variation of the above, with sketches, illustrating how her soul, bigger
than her body, was, at that very moment, already with the soul of her
daughter in heaven, so they weren't apart, even if she felt, at that time,
the separation.

It's a shame that I can't sketch in e-mail. Perhaps I should write a
variation of this as a web page and try to include sketches.

This is all the time I have for right now. If Mary or George would like to
contact me, they can reach me at: John@LiteracyCurriculums.com. I am not
currently receiving the mail @GodLovesEveryone.org that I'm supposed to, so
please don't use that address.

John
www.MAZES.com
www.GodLovesEveryone.org

----- Original Message ----- From: "ana maria torra" <amt@menta.net>
To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 3:22 AM
Subject: Theos-World help for another


Dear all,

I have'nt been around for a while, as I went away and could not get to
a computer.
I just came back last night and today I read this mail from somebody
in another list I belong to:

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Linda or anyone,

I just got a call that one of the clients from the volunteer agency I
work for that the doctors have told him there is nothing more they can
do for him. He is a handsome young man from Greece who is going to get
married in 3 months. His name is George and he had cancer of the
tongue that has spread. He is going home tomorrow night. He asked to
see me before he leaves. He is quiet and young with great dignity and
has been a private person during his 6 week stay with us at Miracle
House. I don't know if he has any religion or specific beliefs. But he
wanted to know if I could talk to hime about reincarnation.

Usually when this happens I can get out of my own way and I am helped
to listen and somehow find words if necessary to help. He definitely
wants words and thoughts and as many specifics as possible. I am
concerned that I went back to work too soon after my daughter's death.
This request in the past would not have been so problematic to me but
my mind and heart are not working as they usually do. I don't want to
not give him what I can because I may have possibly made a mistake in
judgment by jumping back to work so quickly. He will be on a plane for
many hours tomorrow night for his thoughts and fears. Why he
specifically asked about reincarnation now I do not know. He never
mentioned this before but then he thought he would be cured. Can
anyone offer any thoughts or experiences or knowledge that I can use
to help George. He is a gentle soul and alone here in New York with
only those of us from Miracle House. I want tobe with him where he is
and listen and speak to his concerns. Any help would be a gift.

Love,
Mary

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It seems there is not much time to think about the issue or to find
something "right to the point", that is: clear, not too long or
difficult to grasp, and yet able to give him some hope and comfort.
But I have no time right now to go into that and I would like to ask
you if somebody could have any idea as to what could be suitable to
him, as I would send it to her right away. Maybe he could print it to
him for the long flight back...

Thanking you so much,

ana maria





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