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Re: Theos-World Re: Mrs Besant's "leading men"

Oct 02, 2004 03:59 AM
by ringding777


Pedro:
Besant's election, like the election of every international 
President
of the Adyar TS, was by universal secret ballot. Olcott 
initially
had "appointed" her as his successor and later corrected 
this by
nominating her, which was his prerogative as 
President-Founder.



Pedro, Olcott opposed Besant since she tried to remove him 
as PTS in 1893. That was part of her trial. But it was 
Judge's karma as he was her teacher, therefore it was his 
karmic duty to try all to heal the situation. For this 
reason he called in 1894 a convention of the American 
section and it was on motion of Judge resolved unanimously 
that Olcott was recognized furthermore President for life. 
Olcott, who has stepped back, against the serious advise of 
Judge in his letters to him, changed his view and canceled 
his step back. Since this experience, reinforced in 1906 at 
the Leadbeater scandal, he did not want her as PTS.

First AB claimed that she was appointed by the Masters, who 
allegedly stood as HSO's death bed in Adyar. But sceptical 
members found out that she was at this time (Febr. 1907) on 
a large oversea voyage and not in Adyar. Then the story was 
changed a little bit and a friend of her alleged to have 
been the "eyewitness" of the Masters "astral bodies" at 
Olcott's death bed.
For this reason she was elected by the delegates. They were 
stupid enough to believe this nonsense. From an esoteric 
point of view the incident could be regarded as a trial 
(both for Besant and the membership) and a selection.

Besides this questionable testinomy of hysteric and lying 
women there is no evidence that HSO and/or Masters want her 
as PTS.


Pedro:
Josephine Ransom writes, "even though she was the only 
candidate, the
nomination had to be ratified by a two-thirds majority vote 
of the
whole international Society."


That is a good sign from one side: One third of the members 
did not went into that trap.
When I attended the 100th German Section Anniversary with 
the Adyar HQ people I felt they have learned NOTHING in the 
last hundred years.
The "Masters" (including HPB and Krishnamurti!) were 
allegedly still flying around their heads.
Can a sect more harmful to the spirutal health of humanity 
as this black magic danger. coming from Besant and 
Leadbeater?


Pedro:
Was HPB under "dark" influences when she issued the 
following orders
("H.P. Blavatsky Collected Works", vol. XII, pp.135-137)?


"Strictly Private,
Theosophical Society,
E.S.
[snip]


Pedro, I do not understand your logic.
Why should HPB have bed under dark influences.
She was under white influence when she gave AB such a big 
opportunity.
In eastern occultism it is a big favor of a chela to get a 
duty from his teacher.
Western people seem to think otherwise.

What the dark thing in this case is that she had the 
opportunity and missed it.
That is tragic from the esoteric and understandable from the 
exoteric point of view.
It was part of her training as councillor to call ES 
meetings.
But she never had the post of a teacher in the ES.

If you start a job by McDonald's, selling meatballs, the 
call you in the usual cant "counter manager".
But if a friend asks you about your profession and you 
answer: I am manager by McDonald's your friend may be lead 
to wrong conclusions as obviously there are many managers at 
McDonald's, one manager selling the meatballs, one manager 
with a Rolls Royce counting the banknotes. What a luck for 
the freemason that they are all equal!







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