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Re: Theos-World Re: Mrs Besant's "leading men"

Oct 03, 2004 03:56 AM
by ringding777


Pedro, you, who does not understand the content of the 
letter you quote, allows me, who does not stick on 
dead-letter interpretation, not to accept it.
I thank you.
We say say: Arrogance comes before the fall.

Your wrong conclusions and your twisted, arroagant thinking, 
which is typical for Adyar members (I rarely have met 
others, I mean those with a healthy thinking, but perhaps 
only psychics join its ranks), could be dimmed a little bit 
if you were ready to COMPARE your wrong and quick on the 
trigger, exoteric conclusions with the following statement 
of HPB of December 1888:


"As Head of the Esoteric Section of the Theosophical 
Society, I hereby declare that William Q. Judge of New York, 
U.S.A., in virtue of his character as a disciple of thirteen 
years standing and of the trust and confidence reposed in 
him, is my only representative for said Section in America, 
and he is the sole channel through whom will be sent and 
received all communications between the members of the said 
Section and myself, and to him faith, confidence, and credit 
in that regard are to be given.
The Esoteric Section and its life in the U.S.A. depend upon 
W. Q. Judge remaining its agent and what he is now. The day 
W. Q. Judge resigns, H. P. Blavatsky will be virtually dead 
for the Americans."

And that is the case today, don't? Theosophy is spiritual 
nearly dead world-wide. All is emotion and brain minded 
reductionism as materialism and the dugpas pet business: 
psychology.

Obviously you ASSUME (from what?) that:

1. BdeZ printed all on the ES he knew or had access to. On 
the contrary he would have been able to publish three vols. 
XII.
2. BdeZ did break the rule of his Lodge to publish only that 
portions for which the time is ripe.
3. BdeZ did not confer with the then highest chelas about 
that matter, which were setting aside for the work of the 
last quarter of the 20th Century (Emmett was one of them).

Obviously you never discovered HPB's occult training method, 
because it is the same method to train western minds as BdeZ 
used by publishing the BCW. You cannt understand BdeZ 
without understanding BdeZ and vice versa.
Frank


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "prmoliveira" <prmoliveira@yahoo.com>
To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2004 10:45 AM
Subject: Theos-World Re: Mrs Besant's "leading men"




--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, ringding777@t... wrote:


> Pedro, that is misleading.
> The one who served already as teacher in the ES was OH for
> life, the other, a chela, was made joint OH on probation,
> that means with a temporal limt.

You obviously do no accept the veracity of the documents 
published
by Boris de Zirkoff in "H.P. Blavatsky Collected Writings". 
And you
are entitled not to.

Pedro






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