Theos-Talk Archives (September 2004 Message tt00799)

My simple questions were censored by the moderator in the new email group Theosophical http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Theosophical/.
Perhaps others here did not know about this policy of this new group and my also be interested in the questions, so I place them here in theos-talk, the only free email group I know of where fanatical party liners have NOT the last word which is always NO.
Frank



----- Original Message ----- 
From: Frank Reitemeyer 
To: Theosophical@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 9:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Theosophical] Masters and the Path


What are your reasons that HPB has reincarnated as Frances Ekey?
I mean facts, not emotions, phantasy, fraud, blind believe in the Leadbeater style.
Did Frances Ekey leave signs of spiritual worth on a par with that of HPB?
Thanks
Frank


----- Original Message ----- 
From: WGBailey 
To: Theosophical@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 8:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Theosophical] Masters and the Path


Greetings Marianne ~

I'm sure the Theosophical Society would dearly love to know that answer. I could speculate that the T.S. assumes that the reincarnated HPB would have re-entered the very Society upn which she founded.

My information, and which I believe to be true, tells the following story like so:

The life after HPB, this soul' name was Frances Ekey. The soul of the former HPB is actually masculine but this sould has often chosen to incarnate in a femenine vehicle.

Frances Ekey was involved in an Organization founded by the former Mahatma "Morya" in 1952 - who is now the Ascended Master El Morya (Chohan of the First Ray in CWL's "The Masters and the Path"). The Organization was called The Bridge to Freedom and Frances was an active member. The Dispensation of the Bridge to Freedom was only for ten years and so Frances joined El Morya's next Organization - The Summit Lighthouse in 1958 and she was a founding member. She made her earth transition in 1968 and I understand she has again incarnated.

Why would she not re-join the Theosophical Society? Many reasons, but the main reason is that the Masters of Wisdom moved on and founded subsequent new organizations where ego's and other human efluvia had not rooted. Indeed, Annie Besant and Leadbeater were direct disciples of Masters Morya and Kuthumi, but they withdrew their sponsorship of the T.S. back in 1905. Bant and Leadbeater remained as two shining Lights doing the Will of The Masters.

HPB, always and forever devoted to the Cause of The Masters, went where the Masters wished and it was not her dharma to re-enter the T.S., but carry on with the Master's Active work. El Morya, Chohan of the First Ray founded the Temple of The Presence in May 1995 www.templeofthepresence.org of which I myself am a member.

I love the works of HPB, Besant, and especially Leadbeater so I keep in contact with Theosophical students. Besant and Leadbeater's work is all foundational study for us. "The Masters and the Path" is one such "recommended" book.

It does not concern me if anyone believes the above or not. But your question was "I was wondering if anyone ever heard of this, and if so, who was the vehicle 
she occupied." What kind of answer would you receive from people? If an average person on the street read your question, we all would be considered out of our minds, yes? People do not believe in Masters, generally.

The other reason the soul of HPB and Frances Ekey went to these other Organizations is because that is where her Master Morya was. I don't have the time nor space here, but HPB had some real karma with her Master from her past lives (three specifically), which also explains her devotion to Him in the last 135+ years.

So, Leadbeater and Besant knew where and who HPB was, but can you understand why it was kept secret from the public and the T.S. itself? I wonder when Leadbeater is coming back... and Besant... Or have they?

Enduring Peace.
Will Bailey




Hello All,
Currently our lodge is studying Leadbeater's "The Masters and the Path." 
Toward the end of chapter 2, as he writes about the physical appearance of the 
Masters, he states in the section "Borrowed Vehicles", 

"This temporary occupation of a pupil's body should not be confused with the 
permanent use by an advanced person of a vehicle prepared for him by someone 
else. Our great Founder, Madame Blavatsky, when she left the body in which we 
knew her, entered another which had just been abandoned by its original 
tenant.......other instances are known in which that was done."

I was wondering if anyone ever heard of this, and if so, who was the vehicle 
she occupied.

Thank you in advance for your reply.
Blessings,
Marianne


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