Theos-Talk Archives (July 2004 Message tt00344)

Hallo Daniel and all,

My views are:

I can give you a list.
I have done so before at Theos-Talk.

But, we should always know, the limitations
which follows with such a list presented at this place.

Not everyone are in - spiritual - need to read such books as those presented
OR read at all.
They would in fact spiritually need something else at this place because we
have so different backgrounds and relations
coming here.

So no list of books. - Or just this - Read those whom apeal to you or which
the spiritual heart inside of you find to
be worth while reading. Just don't read superficially - because then there
is a great risk, that you would not really learn anything
of real spiritual quality.

Secondly I would say, that some students need to learn to distinguish
between books, which educates emotions (the propagandist books)
and devotion towards personalities - and those mainly educating intellectual
stimulus - and then of course those which opens the spiritual Heart.
When they cannot do that there will be a risk, that they waste their time.

That is why teachers of quality often would seek out a minor group to
teach - and only a group which are suited at that moment in time
at a particular location - to his or her teaching.
That is why it is important that a Teacher offers you his or hers service.
The true spiritual Teacher finds you, you really do not find him or her.
There are teacher of high and low quality, we have to understand this. If
you are not interested in being taught by a certain Teacher - then you
cannot expect that Teacher to waste his or her time in vain on making YOU
becoming interested.

Teaching operates in different modes and have many disguises.
Sometimes they are emails. Sometimes we experience what is being taught, at
other times not.
Sometimes it is a book and sometimes it is the rock you stumble upon at the
road you are travelling along.
We could offer a list of all books in the world to be read. But would it be
helpful ? Not really.
One could Pick a group of books - and tell us why they are good and who at
this place could benefit from reading them.
And even so opposition would come. Because the student says he or she wants
to learn, but in fact will not - because the ego creates friction
when confronted with the truth.

Teacher of Theosophy has to be careful about which of the older books they
promote and how they relate to the authors
of those books - in the area of this planet we call the informations
society.

Those coming at this place wants theosophy.
Then we can give them that by using our valuable time writing such a list
down.
Even so they would often go and read something quite different.
Some people just don't know what is good for them - and some people don't
want to be
what They call 'pushed around' by someone else
whom they think have made mistakes.

There is also - this issue about - the manner in which such a list are being
presented.

There is something called Teaching based on the Moment, time and place.
Such teaching sometimes turns into books.
The Upanishads was and is such teaching.
Today they have less appeal - because of the translations, the original
language used and the content.


We have to agree upon that there are spiritual books of different level of
quality.
But the wise one looks behind the content of the book
even if it is an old one and reads the aura of the person behind the book
and also (perhaps only partly) that persons Master -
and THIS is a higher level of reading.


Was this helpful ?
Do you want a book ?
Allright.
Just one is being offered. This is mainly for you Caldwell.
Read the Bhagavad Gita.
Read it carefully. Learn all about it. Read the different versions.
Learn Sanskrit so to really understand its content.
And better Seek also to Read it on the Akasha levels if possible.
Live with the quality in this book on its various levels and you will never
go wrong the rest of your life until Avatarhood.

Bhagavad Gita - Chapter VIII:
" The worlds, Arjuna!- even Brahma's world-
Roll back again from Death to Life's unrest;
But they, O Kunti's Son! that reach to Me,
Taste birth no more. If ye know Brahma's Day
Which is a thousand Yugas; if ye know
The thousand Yugas making Brahma's Night,
Then know ye Day and Night as He doth know!
When that vast Dawn doth break, th' Invisible
Is brought anew into the Visible;
When that deep Night doth darken, all which is
Fades back again to Him Who sent it forth;
Yea! this vast company of living things-
Again and yet again produced- expires
At Brahma's Nightfall; and, at Brahma's Dawn,
Riseth, without its will, to life new-born.
But- higher, deeper, innermost- abides
Another Life, not like the life of sense,
Escaping sight, unchanging. This endures
When all created things have passed away;
This is that Life named the Unmanifest,
The Infinite! the All! the Uttermost.
Thither arriving none return. That Life
Is Mine, and I am there! And, Prince! by faith
Which wanders not, there is a way to come
Thither. I, the PURUSHA, I Who spread
The Universe around me- in Whom dwell
All living Things- may so be reached and seen! "
http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/gita/bg08.htm

from
M. Sufilight with peace and love...


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Daniel H. Caldwell" <danielhcaldwell@yahoo.com>
To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 2:45 AM
Subject: Theos-World Morten on "largely time-and-culture based theosophical
material"


> Morten,
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> You wrote:
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> "There is a vast accumulation of theosophical
> teachings, much of it in writings, which would-be
> students plough through, looking for theosophy
> (Wisdom of the Gods), and wondering why it seems,
> so often, self-contradictory. The simple answer
> is that this material is largely time-and-
> culture-based. Most of it was prescribed for
> specific audiences at certain times and under
> particular conditions."
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> Morten, you have repeated this theme from time to
> time on this forum.
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> So give us some specifics:
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> For the specific audience on Theos-Talk,
> give us some titles of books
> that give theosophical teachings as of 2004?
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> Daniel
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