Re: Theos-World Emptiness
Jul 16, 2004 03:23 PM
by samblo
Katinka,
Thanks for your comments. Well, I have the Earthstore Bodhisatva Sutra
(Ch'an) and various other books on Sunyat and correlates. But I have come to
the opinion that the classically understood void, emptiness, Maya are
regulated and monitored by the limitation that was inherent anciently when the
doctrine was originated due to the absence of any means to scientifically monitor,
view, or telemetrize such idea's as which Science is now becoming more able to
do. It might also be that the doctrine of dependent origination so classic in
multiple teachings could also come to indicate "Interdependent Origination"
which is what Gariaev's Research tends to show, viz that there is a continuos
unbroken sutra of manifestation, communication, and organization from
Consciousness to the Non-local, non-temporal void (Quantum Matrix) into the most subtle
energies and thence throughout the ascending hierarchy of organized matter that
constitutes our human vehicle. That this is in effect a de facto Maya due to
our organs of perception limitation which does not see the rest of the
iceberg, and is not aware perceptually of the overall fineness of the entire stream
of the standing wave organization that constitutes the Quantum Reality.
Buddhism maintains that there is no "abiding" self moment to moment, I see a strong
relation when reading Gariaev's papers and the papers of Robert Neil Boyd and
others. It was for this reason I earlier posted about a "convergence" of
science, religion, and philosophy.
You mention "This also leads one to the conclusion that it is linked to the
sense of inner unity of everything." The sense of it is the "germ of the
Seed" but what is it actually that takes place and in what form(s) and how is it
manifested? We as Theosophists might consider making the germ into a Seed and
making the Seed grow into a fuller understanding that can bloom in a more
complete fullness. Consciousness, Space ( Real, apparent, and indeterminate ), and
matter-energy are all the perennial set that persist in our mind as Great
questions from the most antiquitous thoughts we have. To me whether Theosophical,
Scientific, or other there is, as said the Law of Nature mentioned by H.P.B.
and the Mahatma's that they say is nonvarible and impersonal so effecting
karmic interactivity that is applied without exception to all that is in
manifestation and has habitat within the energetic creation. Is the Sunyat void? I think
not, the Sunyat is perfectly full and appears as void to lower perception.
But if Alaya Vijnana Earth Store Consciousness, Fifth Skanda contains the
actions, thoughts, deeds, ideas, origination's constructs of all the past, present,
and future of all beings that have come into manifestation, and if it serves
as the repository of karmic futurity and all possible infinite potentials and
possibilities which is also the definition of the Non-local Quantum Matrix then
I see the functional mechanism whereby the natural law is maintained and
matriculated operatively. Additionally, certain traditions about Prophecy or
prophetic ability as contained in Buddhism or other resources may be directly
related to ability to access the Alaya Vijnana by knowledge of specific Potential
that are viewed in it by those who can use it as a resource due to their
altitude of attainment.
I did the link to your reference link and saved it, will read later
tonight.
John
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