Theos-Talk Archives (April 2004 Message tt00250)

--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, leonmaurer@a... wrote:
> 
> In a message dated 04/06/04 4:02:25 PM, netemara888@y... writes:
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> >--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, leonmaurer@a... wrote:
> >
> >> Be nice if she revealed something of her knowledge of occultism 
> >> rather than her ego. :-)
> >> So far you are the third one to claim a possible comeback or 
> >> kinship with the Old Lady. Whom do we believe? Or do we put 
you all in 
> >> the same catagory as we take all the returning Jesus Christ 
claims? <;-)>
> >> 
> >> Leonardo
> >> 
> >
> >They are one and the same. Besides I have pictures and diaries 
that 
> >are too numerous to publish online. That's really why I am 
changing 
> >my life and moving to another locale where I can do the next 
phase. 
> >But they nor I need anyone's consent or approval for a claim. 
> 
> Well, in Business they say, "it's all location, location, 
location." So, I 
> suppose that also goes for what you have in mind for the 
next "phase." 
> (Whatever it is -- although I hope its not trying to form a new 
bigoted religion that 
> divides theosophy or the world even further than they are now. :-) 
> 
> >In science it is the task of the nonbeliever to disprove, not the 
> >claimants to prove but to present evidence and "proofs."
> 
> Well, I don't think that Madame Blavatsky, had any trouble pulling 
off a few 
> tricks and offering some really powerful teachings, to "prove" to 
everyone she 
> was the true mouthpiece of the Masters, and an Adept herself. 
> 
> >That is the reason I spend time volleying with people here. I am 
> >really just bidding my time, because there is no onus to do 
anything 
> >different. I have the writings to prove my claim. You nor anyone 
else 
> >has to believe it, call me names, or take time to disprove what? 
> >Rebirth? You would not really know where to start now would you?
> >
> 
> Could very well be that I might. (But, that's for me to know and 
you to find 
> out. :-) But, that aside, I'm sure that a few theosophical 
students in this 
> forum involved with Blavatsky's teachings and her mission would 
certainly be 
> interested in seeing some of those writings... Or, at least, 
hearing some wise 
> words, or a new message that would sound somewhat like what the 
real HPB might 
> say, or that would be comparable to what was written when she (as 
you see 
> her) was here. While the body might be different, I'm sure the 
mind, wisdom, 
> ideas and motivations would be quite the same... And, hopefully, 
with the link to 
> the Masters still unbroken. 
> 
> That could be sufficient evidence to convince some of Blavatsky's 
devoted 
> disciples that you are whom you say you are. Unfortunately, most 
of your 
> writings and prejudicial remarks, to this forum at least, belie 
that. (Although 
> "HPB," to the real students of theosophy, symbolizes the Masters 
behind Madame 
> Blavatsky -- who was only the "messenger" for them and no big deal 
in her own 
> personal being, and who could very well have said and done some 
stupid things the 
> last time she was here, as well as now. :-) 
> 
> But, then, if the soul of HPB did come back, she could just as 
well be 
> interested in doing something else, or merely watching what some 
of her friends and 
> followers might be doing. Or, she could just be fishing around to 
find the 
> best place and people to do whatever new work she had in mind. 
So, to give you 
> the benefit of the doubt, why not you? (But, I'm afraid, you might 
not find 
> too many believers in this forum of mavericks, heretics and 
iconoclasts, no 
> matter what evidence you might come up with.:-) BTW, speaking for 
myself, I think 
> I've already met the spirit of HPB in a body -- but he died some 
years ago 
> after teaching me what I had to know and helping edit the Science 
and Theosophy 
> section of a recent biography of HPB. 
> 
> In any event, you are right that what you believe in your own mind 
is your 
> truth. And who are we to question it? Some of my friends say they 
are the 
> reincarnated Jesus, or other descended Adepts and Masters, and 
they, too, have 
> trouble getting people to believe it. Although, one of them has 
managed to 
> convince a number of highly intelligent people that he might be. 
And, I've talked 
> with others who could very well be -- although they make no such 
personal 
> claims. On the whole, though, to be fair, most of the claimants 
are quite 
> delusional -- since they only reflect what they read in the Bible 
or other scriptures, 
> and have no theosophical, philosophical or scientific thoughts or 
ideas of 
> their own. (Blind faith, or bigoted religious belief, of course, 
is another 
> matter entirely.) 
> 
> So, good luck (or should I say, karma) with the new life you are 
planning. 
> And, I hope the people you may find in your new location are more 
receptive to 
> your reincarnation claims, let alone your ideas and teaching. 
However, if 
> they are truly in the spirit of HPB's theosophical teachings, may 
your new 
> efforts be both worthwhile and successful. But, if not, I'm sure 
the karma that 
> results will be your just deserves. 
> 
> Leonardo Hermes Mason (Maurer)
> [Who could very well be a reincarnation of Tut-Moses III, the last 
Egyptian 
> Mason-Adept. BTW, one of my presumedly descended Adept friends 
gave me a gift 
> of the golden "Seal of Thoth" originally made and carried by Tut-
Moses I -- 
> which I wear around my neck as he did -- if that's any proof? :-)] 
> (Unfortunately, Tut-Moses III was exiled before he could become 
the Pharaoh, and he ended 
> up saving some of those former Egyptian slaves you appear to have 
no use for.)
> </:-)> 
> 
> Have a happy Easter and Passover.
> 
> >Netemara

Leon,

Thank you for your thoughtful post. 

Yeah and nay. I ask "to act as if" and see what happens. My task is 
really to write about reincarnation and the laws of rebirth. I have 
moved people from one body to the other and have watched not only my 
rebirths but that of others. This is what is different, this is my 
message. That I know of others and not just my own lives and have 
written about it is the difference.

My first attempt at writing was outlining the etheric body and the 
way that the nadis flow and those experiences. I have to rewrite it. 
I will change my location but more importantly I am also trying to 
at least work part time so that I can spend the rest of the time 
writing. 

My other task is to teach meditation and the "theory" of Sant Mat. I 
can teach people to leave their bodies. And if there is a nuclear 
holocaust that might come in handy. But aside from that there is the 
spiritual side. So much of what I have to say is in the experiential 
realm. In some ways it demands personal training and teaching. 

If I were crazy, which my students call me every day, I would not be 
here talking to you or others. I also plan to return to academia and 
get another advanced degree in something or other.

Finally, Tut Moses III was revealed to me in a vision. I had never 
heard of this person. I looked his name up as soon as his life was 
shown to me. I saw it and his life and began to research it. He was 
victorious in the battle of Megiddo. He took over from his aunt who 
was the pharoah. He did rise to power as far as I know. I have his 
name on a ruler listing him as a pharoah that I bought at Harvard. I 
have books on his life. THere was an exhibit here in my home town 
all about him and his reign. I claim him too.

But don't forget why shouldn't people claim connections to famous, 
people, I use that word loosely? We are all connected to someone at 
sometime. Think of the people who were around these people? 

I don't think everyone was completely understanding what HPB or AAB 
wrote when first given out. You may not see wisdom in what I do 
because it is not the whole picture. I have restraints at this time. 
It is a great deal of energy which I will release. Remember we are 
workers with energies and forces. That is something that I can also 
show proof for. 

Energy is the name of the game.

Peace 

Netemara