Theos-Talk Archives (March 2004 Message tt00500)

Sorry.
I am not a pro-Pasadena theosophist.

The word "not" in the below relevant sentence seems to creep forward
from good knows were.

from
M. Sufilight with peace and love...

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Morten Nymann Olesen" <global-theosophy@adslhome.dk>
To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 1:30 PM
Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: Correction Re: Freedom of THOUGHT


> Hallo all of you,
>
> My views are:
>
> Pedro wrote:
> "> Should students of Theosophy appease evil ideologies?
> >
> > Pedro"
>
> I do not disagree with you on the below.
>
> No they should not.
> And that is precisely why we should allow these - so-called evil or
> 'hateful' persons - to face the facts.
> And we do not - always - do that by telling them, that they should leave
> this place because we think they are evil or the like.
> Do we ?
>
> Just to avoid any misunderstandings at this place.
> No member at this place is an unchangeable daemon.
> All is walking the Path sooner or later, although maybe not in this
> Mavantara.
> To me it is a fact.
> To others, there is a strange view about the 8th sphere or Lost Souls
> creeping forward from time to time.
> Even those in the 8th sphere or Sphere of Death have an option of
returning
> to the path of so-called human evolution or similar.
> I claim I know this. Others may claim different.
>
> On the "Lost Soul" I agree with the following explanation, although I
cannot
> be called not a pro-Pasadena theosophist.
> http://www.theosociety.org/pasadena/etgloss/lo-lz.htm
>
> The state called Avichi is not the same...
> http://www.theosociety.org/pasadena/etgloss/ato-az.htm
>
> Those who do evil deeds will have to face the karmic reactions.
> The law of Karma is indeed a true reality to some of us.
>
> So shall we not relax and enjoy the ride while doing a spiritual effort...
> Let us all be happy.
>
>
> from
> M. Sufilight with peace and love...
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Pedro Oliveira" <prmoliveira@yahoo.com>
> To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 11:50 AM
> Subject: Theos-World Re: Correction Re: Freedom of THOUGHT
>
>
> > --- Morten Nymann Olesen
> > <global-theosophy@adslhome.dk> wrote: > Hallo all of
> > you,
> >
> > > Sorry I forgot to wrote "NOT".
> > >
> > > My views are:
> > >
> > >
> > > Blavatsky might be helpful on this one:
> > > "ON PSEUDO-THEOSOPHY"
> >
> > http://www.blavatsky.net/blavatsky/arts/OnPseudoTheosophy.htm
> >
> > > If what anyone says is false, then we aught tell the
> > > person, what is wrong -
> > > and NOT go around being too sensitive and as
> > > Blavatsky says:
> > > "tremble at every opinion too boldly expressed in
> > > LUCIFER".
> > >
> > > Do you not agree ?
> > >
> > > Let us act like true theosophists and not be like a
> > > leaf in the wind.
> >
> >
> > Thank you for your comments, Morten.
> >
> > Since you brought up comments by HPB in "Lucifer", it
> > may be relevant to consider her view of the purpose
> > for which she started that magazine. Below is what she
> > wrote on the very first issue of "Lucifer" (H.P.
> > Blavatsky Collected Writings, vol. VIII,
> > September, 1887):
> >
> > "Now, the first and most important, if not the sole
> > object of the magazine, is expressed in the line from
> > the 1st Epistle to the Corinthians, on its title page.
> > It is to bring light to "the hidden things of
> > darkness" (iv, 5); to show in their true aspect and
> > their original real meaning things and names, men and
> > their doings and customs; it is finally to fight
> > prejudice, hypocrisy and shams in every nation, in
> > every class of Society, as in every department of
> > life. The task is a laborious one but it is neither
> > impracticable nor useless, if even as an experiment.
> >
> > Thus, for an attempt of such nature, no better title
> > could ever be found than the one chosen. "Lucifer" is
> > the pale morning-star, the precursor of the full blaze
> > of the noon-day sun-the "Eosphoros" of the Greeks. It
> > shines timidly at dawn to gather forces and dazzle the
> > eye after sunset as its own brother "Hesperos"-the
> > radiant evening star, or the planet Venus. No fitter
> > symbol exists for the proposed work-that of throwing a
> > ray of truth on everything hidden by the darkness of
> > prejudice, by social or religious misconceptions;
> > especially by that idiotic routine in life, which,
> > once that a certain action, a thing, a name, has been
> > branded by slanderous inventions, however unjust,
> > makes respectable people, so-called, turn away
> > shiveringly, refusing to even look at it from any
> > other aspect than the one sanctioned by public
> > opinion. Such an endeavour then, to force the
> > weak-hearted to look truth straight in the face, is
> > helped most efficaciously by a title belonging to the
> > category of branded names."
> >
> > Anti-semitism, ethnic cleansing, racism, sexual
> > violence, and all other forms of prejudice, are not
> > based on truth - the oneness of all life - and
> > therefore deserve and must be exposed as crimes
> > against humanity. These are evil ideologies; they
> > bewitch, condition and pervert the human mind. An
> > understanding of Theosophy throws light on what they
> > really are: "prejudice, hypocrisy and shams."
> >
> > As the Mahatma wrote (letter 88, chronological), "The
> > real evil proceeds from human intelligence and its
> > origin rests entirely with reasoning man who
> > dissociates himself from Nature. Humanity, then, alone
> > is the true source of evil. Evil is the exaggeration
> > of good, the progeny of human selfishness and
> > greediness. Think profoundly and you will find that
> > save death - which is no evil but a necessary law, and
> > accidents which will always find their reward in a
> > future life - the origin of every evil whether small
> > or great is in human action, in man whose intelligence
> > makes him the one free agent in Nature."
> >
> > Should students of Theosophy appease evil ideologies?
> >
> > Pedro
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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