Theos-Talk Archives (March 2004 Message tt00471)

Morten on "Many of Bailey's Teachings DRAWN DIRECTLY from Besant & 
Leadbeater"

Morten,

My quotes show that it was Jerry Hejka-Ekins who wrote:

"From my earlier perusal of AAB's writings, I found
that many of her teachings were DRAWN DIRECTLY from
Besant and Leadbeater's E.S. writings...." caps added

Jerry has posted some contributions of late on Theos-Talk.
Hopefully Jerry will see your question and elucidate
the point he made.

But I would say that you could start with comparing
Bailey's "Initiation Human and Solar" with Leadbeater's
"The Masters and the Path." 

OBTW, you seem somewhat surprised by Jerry's statement.
Why?

Daniel

--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "Morten Nymann Olesen" <global-
theosophy@a...> wrote:
> Hallo Daniel and all,
> 
> What is this ?
> How do you define the word "many"
> when you say "Many of Bailey's Teachings DRAWN DIRECTLY from Besant 
&
> Leadbeater" ???
> 
> If this is true - dead-letter, then this is historical, and we 
aught to
> spread the word to everyone.
> 
> Please help me out Daniel.
> 
> 
> 
> from
> M. Sufilight with peace and love...
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Daniel H. Caldwell" <danielhcaldwell@y...>
> To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 5:19 AM
> Subject: Theos-World Many of Bailey's Teachings DRAWN DIRECTLY from 
Besant &
> Leadbeater
> 
> 
> On Theos-L in a posting dated Jan. 12, 1994, Jerry
> Hejka-Ekins wrote:
> 
> "From my earlier perusal of AAB's writings, I found
> that many of her teachings were DRAWN DIRECTLY from
> Besant and Leadbeater's E.S. writings, which to this day,
> are not publicly available." Bold added.
> Quoted from:
> http://theosophy.net/tl-text/TL199401.TXT
> 
> In another posting dated Jan 6, 2003 and posted to
> Theos-Talk, Jerry added details:
> 
> "The Maitreya teaching was originally tied to
> Krishnamurti, the supposed vehicle for the
> Maitreya/Christ return. Besant, in an ES talk in
> 1909 or 10, presented the earliest (that I'm aware of)
> full description of what LATER BECAME CREDITED as
> the Bailey hierarchy-Maitreya and all."
> 
> "This was published in The Link (a London ES journal)
> and in the American EST Bulletin in 1910, I think,
> but no later than this. Also in January 1912, CWL and
> AB were called by the Maitreya to prepare Krishnamurti
> and Jinarajadasa for their second initiation. . . .
> Much of the material in Masters and the Path comes from
> these early events. The account of this 1912 initiation
> begins on pg. 298 in my 2nd edition (1927). . . ."
> 
> "According to her Autobiography, (If my memory serves
> me correctly) Bailey's first contact with Theosophy
> was through the Pacific Grove Lodge around 1912.
> She moved to Krotona Hollywood a year or two
> thereafter where she joined the ES, and GAINED
> ACCESS to the [Besant/Leadbeater] material concerning
> the inner government and initiations, which was
> only circulated through the ES at that time. . . ."
> 
> ". . . [Bailey's] Initiation Human and Solar was published
> in 1922-her first book-I think. I read it some years ago,
> and found it VERY FAITHFUL to the [Besant/Leadbeater]ES
> teachings as they were presented from 1910-1918." Bold added.
> Quoted from:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/theos-talk/message/10242
> 
> For information on the deviations in the teachings of Besant
> and Leadbeater from H.P. Blavatsky's original presentation
> of Theosophy, see the following:
> 
> . C.W. Leadbeater's and Annie Besant's Theosophical Teachings:
> Comments by James A. Santucci, Jerry Hejka-Ekins and Alvin Boyd Kuhn
> http://www.blavatskyarchives.com/thomas/index.htm#online
> http://www.theosophy.info/thomas/index.htm#online
> 
> . H.P. Blavatsky: A Great Betrayal by Alice Leighton Cleather.
> 1922. 106 pp.
> http://kessingerpub.com/searchresults_orderthebook.lasso?
> Title=12585457&Submit=Query
> 
> . Theosophy Versus Neo-Theosophy (abridged edition, reprint of
> Section I only) compiled by Margaret Thomas with additions by Mark
> Jaqua.
> http://www.blavatskyarchives.com/thomas/index.htm
> http://www.theosophy.info/thomas/index.htm
> 
> . Theosophy Or NeoTheosophy? (reprint of the complete,
> unabridged
> original edition) compiled by Margaret Thomas
> http://www.blavatskyarchives.com/tontitlepage.pdf
> http://www.theosophy.info/tontitlepage.pdf
> 
> . Life After Death in Kamaloka (the Astral World): H.P.
> Blavatsky
> versus C.W. Leadbeater compiled by Ray Morgan
> http://www.blavatskyarchives.com/morganafterdeath.htm
> http://www.theosophy.info/morganafterdeath.htm
> 
> . C.W. Leadbeater & H.P. Blavatsky about Life on Mars and Other
> Planets
> http://www.blavatskyarchives.com/leadbeatermars.htm
> http://www.theosophy.info/leadbeatermars.htm
> 
> Daniel
> 
> Daniel H. Caldwell
> BLAVATSKY STUDY CENTER/BLAVATSKY ARCHIVES
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