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RE: Theos-World RE: Re: "Well, hell most Jews are now atheists and homosexuals. ....

Mar 18, 2004 06:16 PM
by Tony


Leon

There are these quotes from "The Secret Doctrine", mentioning the Jewish
race and the Semitic race.
"The Jewish race is, on the other hand, proclaimed even by its severest
critic, an uncompromising opponent of the Bible, (See “Modern Science and
Modern Thought,” p. 337), to have the merit of having conceived the idea of
monotheism “earlier, and retained it more firmly, than any of the less
philosophical and more immoral religions(!!) of the “ancient world.” "
(vol.I, page 252)

" . . . and, secondly, that there was a common Aryan religion before the
separation of the Aryan race; a common Semitic religion before the
separation of the Semitic race (Introductory, page 29)

I was speaking to a Jewish friend last night who saw themselves as part of
the Jewish race.

As I understand it, lets call them "True" Jews, see the state of Israel as a
state of consciousness. The Zionists and the rest see the State of Israel
as a Country. What is the truth of this statement, if any, and is there a
name for those Jews who see the state of Israel as a state of Consciousness?

Although HPB studied for years the Kabalah ("for nearer forty than thirty
years" CW vol. 8, p.140 - is there some symbology in that?), does she go as
far as saying: <<<the true Hebrew Kabbala as being equivalent with
the Gupta Vidya or Secret Doctrine>>>? Is the true Kabalah even Hebrew?
Just to think of the Sanscrit and Hebrew alphabets, the latter is basically
a collection of phallic symbols. How different they are.

"While the Oriental Cabala remained in its pure primitive shape, the Mosaic
or Jewish one was full of drawbacks, and the keys to many of the secrets —
forbidden by the Mosaic law — purposely misinterpreted." ("A Few Questions
to "Hiraf" - CW. I, page 111).

"Thus, if Kabalah as a word is Hebrew, the system itself is no more Jewish
than is sunlight; it is universal." ("Kabalah and Kabalists" - CW, page
268).

Tony


-----Original Message-----
From: leonmaurer@aol.com [mailto:leonmaurer@aol.com]
Sent: 17 March 2004 6:54 am
To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: Theos-World RE: Re: "Well, hell most Jews are now atheists
and homosexuals. ....



In a message dated 03/15/04 10:41:20 AM, global-theosophy@adslhome.dk
writes:

>Hallo Bart and all,
>
>My views are:
>Allright.
>
>I think HPB was talking about what we today could call the Zionist Jews,
>when she called the Jews an Artifical race (Secret Doctrine vol2. p. 471).
>Did that help ?


No much. Since HPB was probably referring to the mistaken concept that many
anti Semites have (of which there must have been many around her at that
time)
-- that the Jews are a race.

It leads me to believe that she was more equal minded about the Jews than
most of the theosophical and pseudo theosophical leaders and bigots that
came
after her -- since her only beef was how they may have mistakenly (or
through the
machinations of some of the crafty priests like Ezra) mistook or distorted
the true mystery teachings. Accordingly, I don't think there is any bases
for
blanket Anti Semitism in HPB's writings -- like the racist policies of Nazi
Germany -- since she recognized the true Hebrew Kabbala as being equivalent
with
the Gupta Vidya or Secret Doctrine, and I'm sure there are myriad's of Jews
and non Jews today who understand and follow those teachings. It's only the
Jesuits of the Catholic Church who promoted that racial oriented hatred of
Jews
in the first place -- after they couldn't exterminate them all during the
Inquisition.

LHM

>
>from
>M. Sufilight with peace and love...




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