Re: deceased masters
Jan 05, 2004 11:33 AM
by stevestubbs
The story about Yogananda's non-rotting corpse reminds me of a poem I
read tears ago called "Rotting Away!" Anywaym there are severla
things about this story which strike me as suspect:
(1) Most states have laws regarding the disposition of dead bodies,
so that a rotting corpse would be left in unembalmed state for 20
days seems strange. This makes the story suspect in itself.
(2) If the corpse was embalmed it probably would not decompose within
a short period of time. Lenin's corpse is stll somewhere in Russia
slowly rotting after some 80 years ot so, observed by his admirers.
(3) If Yogananda was not vegetarian but a voracious meat water he
would have consumed prodigious quantities of perservatives, which
prevent normal rotting after death.
(4) Most yogis opt for cremation and do not leave corpses around
rotting long after they depart them.
In short, the story could be true, but I think the story itself is
rot. Anyone can get anything notarized. Iam sure I could get a
blank sheet of paper notarized if I wanted to.
Everyone who has practiced yoga has experienced all sorts of strange
phenomena, including visions of Babaji and every one of the
Theosophical phenomena except materialization. Despite long search I
have found no one alive today who can demonstrate the ability to
materkialize solid objects. Sai Baba has made claims to the effect
that he can do it, but he has been accused of being a sleight of hand
artist. It is impossible to prove a negative, but the reality of
materializatio would have to be considered unproved unless someone
knows someone who can do it. The fact that nobody can do it does not
constitute proof that the thng can be done, in other words.
As for the mahatmas, it is reasonable to assert that because of the
long time which has elapsed since the SD was writen they are all
deceased. When Nicolas Roerich was in Tibet in the twentiies he was
told that the mahatma KH was deceased and that the Kauthumpas ("Men
of Koot Hoomi") were disbanded. He claims to have met Morya and to
have studied under him, which, if the stories are true, would mean
that Morya was still alive in the twenties. It is reasonable to
assume thatm he, too, has moved on in the eighty years since then.
The cynics will sneer, but that there are mahatmas in the world today
is a fact. Hankering after wonders is considered by most of them to
be a sign of spiritual immaturity, and "phenoomena" are demonstrated
rarely, and in private gatherings. Anyone who operates out of a
store front is suspect. I have been told, for example, that if you
are to meet Babaji all that is required is to go to northern India.
If he wants to meet you, someone will approach you on his behalf.
Searching for him is useless. There have been several impostors,
some of them perhaps well intentioned, who claimed to be Babaji, but
if you have to find them they are not the real deal.
In any ecvent you would have to prepare yourself. The adage "when
the student is ready the master will appear" does not refer to idle
reading.
--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "krishtar_a" <krishtar_a@b...>
wrote:
> Dears
>
> Be all of you in deep peace.
> A question.
> If the original Mahatmas were still alive on earth could they still
produce phenomenons?
> I mean, in other words, can a deceased adept or highly special
talented people produce phenomenons in this physical plane only by
the use of will-power and awareness of mystical laws involved???
> I am not meaning mediumship which all we know use other sources of
beings and vehicles allied with will power.
> I also know that some adepts such as Babaji, who was the guru of
Lahiri Mahashaya and, consequently, of Paramahansa Yogananda claimed
that his physical body was senturies old.
> Does anybody have any clue on the " theosophical Mahatmas" being
still alive in this plane, based in these same circumstances?
> If someone wants to know more about these Yogis and Mahatma Babaji,
in his book " Self-biography of a a yogy" , P. Yogananda beautifully
reports.
> Something I find very interesting is the purification that can
devoted Men and Women achieve through meditation and work.
> On March 7, 1952, Paramahansa Yogananda passed away, in a conscious
exit from the body at the time of physical death!
> His passing was marked by an other extraordinary phenomenon. A
notarized statement signed by the Director of Forest Lawn Memorial-
Park testified: "No physical disintegration was visible in his body
even twenty days after death....This state of perfect preservation of
a body is, so far as we know from mortuary annals, an unparalleled
one....Yogananda's body was apparently in a phenomenal state of
immutability." Isn' it fantastic?
>
>
> Krishtar
>
>
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