Theos-Talk Archives (October 2003 Message tt00309)

Hi Mauri and all of you,


My views are given in the below using ***.

from
M. Sufilight with peace and love...


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mauri" <mhart@idirect.ca>
To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 4:50 PM
Subject: Theos-World re to Morten and ...


> Morten wrote: <<To speculate is also to
> assume.>>
>
> If you assume that "to speculate is to
> assume" then, as I see it, you are
> assuming/interpreting (per whatever dependent
> arisings) something or other about what I
> mean by my qualifiers, "speculativeness,"
> etc.
***
Yes "If you assume..." !
But I don't assume. We talk about facts here.
--- To speculate is ALSO to assume. ---
This is a fact - but of course not always a fact.
If you disagree, then you are twisting the english language.

***

As I see it, my posts are partly about
> the "senses"/perspectives in which I
> "speculate" or "think for myself," as it
> were. And, as is beconing more and more
> obvious, seems to me, I don't seem to be, in
> general, getting some of my keyish points
> across apparently because of my "excessive"
> qualifiers, among other things. And yet
> there are some people out there on these
> lists with whom my "qualifiers," among other
> things, seem to have gone over fairly okay,
> apparently, seems to me, based on their
> responses. So, I say again, how one
> interprets qualifiers and "speculativeness,"
> in general, is, as I see it, up to each
> individual. For example, I have corresponded
> with some people on Theosophy Study List
> fairly smoothly for a fairly long stretch.
> So maybe it's just that some people might be
> somehow "karmically more like- minded," or
> something like that ... But I seem to be
> thinking (in other words, "speculating"),
> that, with enough qualifiers, and whatever,
> I might be able to break through some of
> those karmic, or whatever, blocks,
> eventually, and so I seem to be, from another
> perspective, wanting to persist in banging my
> head (in effect ... ^:-/ ...) against so many
> brick walls, apparently. Obviously that kind
> of thing is just as much "my problem," in a
> sense, so, sorry about that.

***
Yes. But maybe if you were to do - more - than just speculating about it,
you might put your HEART into the banging instead of only your HEAD !
(smile...)

***
>
> << If the hypotesis are presented not taking
> time, place and people into account - then it
> might have no spiritual growth-value in it,
> and it could be somewhat damaging or
> timewasting although it quite often are
> harmless.>>
>
> Yes, apparently my attempts at being
> "applicable enough" haven't gone over too
> well ... You seem to have a point there.
>
> <<It is just like some milk - you drink it
> only at the right time. A few weeks
> later you don't.>>
>
> Milk? I can't stand the stuff. As for
> "right time" ... well, I'll speculate (think)
> some more about that.
>
> <<What is going on ? As Fox Mulder says: The
> TRUTH is out there ! Or was it "IN" there -
> in the Head and the Heart ?>>
>
> I think it might be kind of all over and
> under and in between and ...
>
> Speculatively, thinkingly (about truth, etc),
> Mauri
>
>
***

I think you are doing - aeeehm... - fine on not being selfcentered.
Keep up the good work using your Heart in the matter.


from
M. Sufilight with peace and love...
***
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>