Theos-Talk Archives (August 2003 Message tt00047)

Dear Steve,

Concerning my posting at

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/theos-talk/message/12809

please re-consider Olcott's direct testimony about his
encounter in Bombay:

"On the evening of 4th August [1880], a Mahatma visited HPB, 
and I was called in to see him before he left. He dictated 
a long and important letter to an influential friend of ours at 
Paris, and gave me important hints about the management of 
current [Theosophical] Society affairs. I was sent away before his 
visit terminated, and left him sitting in HPB's room." OLD DIARY 
LEAVES, Vol. II, p. 208

Steve, do you believe that this "Mahatma" in Bombay was actually
Maharaja Ranbir Singh of Kashmir?

According to Olcott's handwritten diary, this "Mahatma" was
Morya.

If the Mahatma in HPB's room was NOT the Maharajah Ranbir
Singh, then what are we to make of Johnson's contention
that Mahatma Morya was a fictitious Tibetan personae 
that concealed the historical figure Ranbir Singh?

Steve, are we dealing in this Bombay case with TWO real 
flesh and blood men (Ranbir Singh in Kashmir and "Morya"
in Bombay) or are we dealing with one Maharaja in Kashmir
and one fictitious "persona" sitting in HPB's room in Bombay?

See the following graphic:

http://www.blavatsky.net/gen/refute/caldwell/morya8.jpg

On another point.

Consider Johnson's contention:

". . . both HPB and Olcott had abundant reasons 
for LYING ABOUT THE MASTERS. . . . Olcott did not lie 
all the time, and wanted to convey to the world his genuine 
conviction of the reality of the Masters. But he sometimes was 
obliged to lie in order to protect their privacy, just as HPB was."
caps added

This statement by Johnson is vague with no details. So
compare Johnson's assertion with Olcott's above testimony:

"On the evening of 4th August [1880], a Mahatma visited HPB, 
and I was called in to see him before he left. He dictated 
a long and important letter to an influential friend of ours at 
Paris, and gave me important hints about the management of 
current [Theosophical] Society affairs. I was sent away before his 
visit terminated, and left him sitting in HPB's room." OLD DIARY 
LEAVES, Vol. II, p. 208

IF JOHNSON KNOWS WHAT HE IS WRITING ABOUT, EXACTLY what did 
Olcott LIE about in the quoted account?

Some food for thought.

Daniel

Daniel H. Caldwell
BLAVATSKY STUDY CENTER/BLAVATSKY ARCHIVES
http://blavatskyarchives.com/introduction.htm

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