Theos-Talk Archives (July 2003 Message tt00164)

I'm saying that if we examine our beliefs completely through to their
logical conclusions we might find ourselves trapped in a paradox. We might
want to build a better mousetrap, but do we really want to harm any mice?

Bill
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From: "adelasie" <adelasie@surfari.net>
To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2003 9:24 PM
Subject: Re: Theos-World re "Re: What Is Happening In America?" (addendum)


> Right you are, Bill. Worrying doesn't help, and being needy is also
> not productive. So are you saying that eveything is hunky dory and
> there is no cause for improvement?
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> Adelasie
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> On 13 Jul 2003 at 12:21, Bill Meredith wrote:
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> > Hi Adelasie. Your writings are often inspirational.
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> > I wish to offer the possibility that "worry" itself is an insidious
> > form of suffering. So also, perhaps, are our "beliefs" based on our
> > needful imaginings. To need is to suffer.
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> >
> > Bill
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> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "adelasie" <adelasie@surfari.net>
> > To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2003 11:06 AM
> > Subject: Re: Theos-World re "Re: What Is Happening In America?"
> > (addendum)
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> > > Dear Leonardo,
> > >
> > > At first I thought this info was shocking. Then I started thinking
> > > about some of the history of the Western world that I know of:
> > > Viking marauders slaughtering families along the coast of Briton,
> > > skulduggery and high political opportunism, with murder of
> > > opposition by war or poisoning thrown in during the Italian
> > > Renaissance, wholesale slaughter by any means, deception and
> > > destruction of the Native American people by Western Europeans, and
> > > the list goes on. Whatever lowdown black tactics are being used in
> > > politics these days, (and I suspect it is the same everywhere, not
> > > just in the US) they are nothing new.
> > >
> > > What I want to know is what do we do about it? Clearly things should
> > > change. If we recognize the fact of reincarnation, we know that we
> > > ourselves are the cyclic perpetrators of this generalized outrage
> > > against Nature and its Law. And, of course, since we do not learn
> > > the lessons, the payback keeps getting worse, the stakes get higher.
> > > Once all we had to worry about was a bunch of guys with swords. Now
> > > we have to worry about someone pushing a button which destroys a
> > > whole city in an instant.
> > >
> > > We can take exception to your interpretation of the evidence it we
> > > like. But whichever side we are on, whatever our point of view, we
> > > come up with a whole lot of evidence that mankind is due for some
> > > renovation of the heart. As far as I can see there is just no real
> > > justification for making someone else suffer, period.
> > >
> > > Best wishes,
> > > Adelasie
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 13 Jul 2003 at 5:35, leonmaurer@aol.com wrote:
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> > > > Sure, if you consider that the Nazi style of government in Germany
> > > > was run by a similar election swiping puppet that, in the
> > > > beginning was sponsored by a "military industrial complex"
> > > > financed by the Bush Family and their cohorts. (That,
> > > > incidentally, Eisenhower knew was being planned by his right wing
> > > > Republican "handlers" [right from the beginning of Hitler's "New
> > > > World Order"] to be continuued in America after the defeat of
> > > > Germany). Vide the more than 2000 ex SS people that were brought
> > > > into this country after the war, some of whom are still linked
> > > > with the CIA that Bush senior was once the boss of. This was one
> > > > of the reasons why Ike, an honorable man, gave up trying to be an
> > > > effective administrator in his second term (possibly in fear of
> > > > his life) and spent most of his time playing golf after he warned
> > > > us to beware of that M-I complex. All this was a known fact among
> > > > many ex military intelligence and OSS-CIA people who knew the
> > > > whole inside story but kept the secrets -- since, besides their
> > > > secrecy oaths, it was a matter of life and death to publicly talk
> > > > about what they knew. In fact one of my former OSS friends (the
> > > > manager of Radio Free Europe during the war), a brave warrior and
> > > > theosophist, died under suspicious circumstances in the mid 80's,
> > > > and the book he was writing about the influence of Richard Nixon
> > > > on the development of these plans (while he was general council
> > > > for Bechtel Corp. and also Attorney for U.S. Office of Emergency
> > > > Management (1942) , even while ostensibly serving as a Naval
> > > > officer, and surreptitiously, as a military attache to
> > > > Eisenhower's staff) mysteriously disappeared. (Besides myself,
> > > > there were more than half a dozen former MI, OSS and CIA people at
> > > > my friend's funeral who voiced equal suspicions about his death
> > > > and the missing manuscripts -- which some of us had seen snippets
> > > > of earlier or had contributed inside information for the writing
> > > > of.) Did anyone ever wonder why Nixon was chosen as Eisenhower's
> > > > running mate in 1952 (after Truman backed down and was sent off to
> > > > pasture)? If you search deep enough on the web, and are a trained
> > > > intelligence gatherer, you can find many snippets of evidence
> > > > that, together, tell this whole story of how the military
> > > > industrial complex in America today was started in Germany with
> > > > the international cartels set up after world war I -- with all the
> > > > links funneled through Wall Street banking firms ostensibly
> > > > controlled by Prescott Bush (Dubya's grandfather). For starters,
> > > > you might look up the "Unauthorized Biography" of George Bush. As
> > > > I said, where there's smoke, there's fire. Isn't the oligarchy
> > > > that rules America today, and their links to Bechtel Corp. (that
> > > > will get the major contracts for rebuilding Iraq, as they did
> > > > Germany) as obvious as the nose on your face? And, who personally
> > > > benefits by this endless and costly war in Iraq along with the tax
> > > > cuts that Bush gave out when the country is suffering its worst
> > > > deficit in its history? Wake up and smell the coffee. The Nazis
> > > > haven't gone away. They just moved to the United States under the
> > > > wing of our missile and space programs -- which are an integral
> > > > part of the Military Industrial Complex (that, incidentally, also
> > > > controls the pharmaceutical Industry that has been raping America
> > > > and is the primary beneficiary of Bush's so called anti AIDS
> > > > Program for Africa).
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> > > > Leonardo
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> > > > > Bart
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