Theos-Talk Archives (July 2003 Message tt00150)

Right you are, Bill. Worrying doesn't help, and being needy is also 
not productive. So are you saying that eveything is hunky dory and 
there is no cause for improvement?

Adelasie

On 13 Jul 2003 at 12:21, Bill Meredith wrote:

> Hi Adelasie. Your writings are often inspirational.
> 
> I wish to offer the possibility that "worry" itself is an insidious
> form of suffering. So also, perhaps, are our "beliefs" based on our
> needful imaginings. To need is to suffer.
> 
> 
> Bill
> 
> 
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "adelasie" <adelasie@surfari.net>
> To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2003 11:06 AM
> Subject: Re: Theos-World re "Re: What Is Happening In America?"
> (addendum)
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> > Dear Leonardo,
> >
> > At first I thought this info was shocking. Then I started thinking
> > about some of the history of the Western world that I know of:
> > Viking marauders slaughtering families along the coast of Briton,
> > skulduggery and high political opportunism, with murder of
> > opposition by war or poisoning thrown in during the Italian
> > Renaissance, wholesale slaughter by any means, deception and
> > destruction of the Native American people by Western Europeans, and
> > the list goes on. Whatever lowdown black tactics are being used in
> > politics these days, (and I suspect it is the same everywhere, not
> > just in the US) they are nothing new.
> >
> > What I want to know is what do we do about it? Clearly things should
> > change. If we recognize the fact of reincarnation, we know that we
> > ourselves are the cyclic perpetrators of this generalized outrage
> > against Nature and its Law. And, of course, since we do not learn
> > the lessons, the payback keeps getting worse, the stakes get higher.
> > Once all we had to worry about was a bunch of guys with swords. Now
> > we have to worry about someone pushing a button which destroys a
> > whole city in an instant.
> >
> > We can take exception to your interpretation of the evidence it we
> > like. But whichever side we are on, whatever our point of view, we
> > come up with a whole lot of evidence that mankind is due for some
> > renovation of the heart. As far as I can see there is just no real
> > justification for making someone else suffer, period.
> >
> > Best wishes,
> > Adelasie
> >
> >
> >
> > On 13 Jul 2003 at 5:35, leonmaurer@aol.com wrote:
> >
> > > Sure, if you consider that the Nazi style of government in Germany
> > > was run by a similar election swiping puppet that, in the
> > > beginning was sponsored by a "military industrial complex"
> > > financed by the Bush Family and their cohorts. (That,
> > > incidentally, Eisenhower knew was being planned by his right wing
> > > Republican "handlers" [right from the beginning of Hitler's "New
> > > World Order"] to be continuued in America after the defeat of
> > > Germany). Vide the more than 2000 ex SS people that were brought
> > > into this country after the war, some of whom are still linked
> > > with the CIA that Bush senior was once the boss of. This was one
> > > of the reasons why Ike, an honorable man, gave up trying to be an
> > > effective administrator in his second term (possibly in fear of
> > > his life) and spent most of his time playing golf after he warned
> > > us to beware of that M-I complex. All this was a known fact among
> > > many ex military intelligence and OSS-CIA people who knew the
> > > whole inside story but kept the secrets -- since, besides their
> > > secrecy oaths, it was a matter of life and death to publicly talk
> > > about what they knew. In fact one of my former OSS friends (the
> > > manager of Radio Free Europe during the war), a brave warrior and
> > > theosophist, died under suspicious circumstances in the mid 80's,
> > > and the book he was writing about the influence of Richard Nixon
> > > on the development of these plans (while he was general council
> > > for Bechtel Corp. and also Attorney for U.S. Office of Emergency
> > > Management (1942) , even while ostensibly serving as a Naval
> > > officer, and surreptitiously, as a military attache to
> > > Eisenhower's staff) mysteriously disappeared. (Besides myself,
> > > there were more than half a dozen former MI, OSS and CIA people at
> > > my friend's funeral who voiced equal suspicions about his death
> > > and the missing manuscripts -- which some of us had seen snippets
> > > of earlier or had contributed inside information for the writing
> > > of.) Did anyone ever wonder why Nixon was chosen as Eisenhower's
> > > running mate in 1952 (after Truman backed down and was sent off to
> > > pasture)? If you search deep enough on the web, and are a trained
> > > intelligence gatherer, you can find many snippets of evidence
> > > that, together, tell this whole story of how the military
> > > industrial complex in America today was started in Germany with
> > > the international cartels set up after world war I -- with all the
> > > links funneled through Wall Street banking firms ostensibly
> > > controlled by Prescott Bush (Dubya's grandfather). For starters,
> > > you might look up the "Unauthorized Biography" of George Bush. As
> > > I said, where there's smoke, there's fire. Isn't the oligarchy
> > > that rules America today, and their links to Bechtel Corp. (that
> > > will get the major contracts for rebuilding Iraq, as they did
> > > Germany) as obvious as the nose on your face? And, who personally
> > > benefits by this endless and costly war in Iraq along with the tax
> > > cuts that Bush gave out when the country is suffering its worst
> > > deficit in its history? Wake up and smell the coffee. The Nazis
> > > haven't gone away. They just moved to the United States under the
> > > wing of our missile and space programs -- which are an integral
> > > part of the Military Industrial Complex (that, incidentally, also
> > > controls the pharmaceutical Industry that has been raping America
> > > and is the primary beneficiary of Bush's so called anti AIDS
> > > Program for Africa).
> > >
> > > Leonardo
> > > >
> > > > Bart
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