Theos-Talk Archives (July 2003 Message tt00016)

Hi Wry and all of you,

I was impressed with your email this time.
Not, that you thanked me, but this one - and I quote you in the below:

"To put it gently, there is a good chance that the Blavatsky
> material has lost a lot of its baraka. This is not good or bad, in that it
> always happens and is to be expected, but unless this is accounted for,
> there is going to be a lot of wasted effort and a continued pouring from
the
> empty into the void. What is baraka and how is it created? I believe this
> has something to do with a conscious aim in relationship to the physical
> substances that are created and emanated from a certain individual or
> individuals as a result of the making of a conscious effort to realize
this
> aim. "

I think this is an important statement.
But different branches like Alice A. Bailey's, Torkom Saraydarian's, Summit
Lighthous'ers,
and others with their own recently deceased personlity - or the like - will
maybe just ignore that statement.
That was why I some days back offered these:
http://home19.inet.tele.dk/global-theosophy/BLAVATSK.HTM (Try only Chapter
1) and
http://home19.inet.tele.dk/global-theosophy/SUFI2.HTM (Try reading this)
I am open for enhancements and constructive criticism to the content of the
last link.
This goes for all the readers of this link.
(I know the website needs improvement...)


One version of Baraka is explained here:
The value for a student to go to a Theosophical meeting with a real wise
teacher is the following.
Without saying anything the teacher emanates special designs, forces and
energies and heals the crowd etc. Just being near such a person is
important. You do'nt even need to talk with the teacher.
This emanation of energies and forces or designs is Baraka - if it is truely
spiritual.
But who is to tell, which teacher is doing so? The beginner student does'nt
really know that.

Another verison of Baraka. The accepted view among Theosophists is:
Blavatsky was spiritual. Some of the Masters supported the writing of the
book The Secret Doctrine and creation of the Theosophical Movement at least
in its earliest days. Therefore there is a Baraka emanating around this book
and the Theosophical movement in general.



Two questions:
Where do you live Wry ?
How do you learn how to learn ?

Feel free to comment or do your best...

from
M. Sufilight with peace and love...

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "wry" <wry1111@earthlink.net>
To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 7:37 PM
Subject: Re: Theos-World Blavatsky/Theosophy Websites & Resources


> Hi. This is not a response to you in particular, Morton, but a general
> comment on this subject. If we look back too much and in the wrong way, we
> will turn into pillars of salt, as in the story of Sodom and Gommorah.
There
> is no way to balance things by doing this, and the imbalance leads to more
> analysis and a further attachment to material. It is a maze and there is
no
> way out. It has nothing to do with me and my opinions whether this is
true
> or not. It is a law in that a certain approach can only lead to a certain
> kind and quality of result.
>
> Moreover, re the Madame Blavatsky's material including the letters of the
> Mahatmas, whether they be real or fake, being time-appropriate. It is most
> interesting that I have had to present this idea to anyone who is an
> educated theosophist and that this idea originally encountered so much
> resistance (though this seems to be gradually changing) and that so much
> hostility was expressed toward me for doing so, as this is so obvious and
> any good scholar of this kind of material could see it at first glance.
> Moreover, it is my opinion that until this idea is understood and
accepted,
> things will be log jammed to a very large extent and people will miss the
> opportunity to use what is appropriate for this time and age from Madame
> Blavatsky's teachings and apply it to the formation of a univeral
> brotherhood. To put it gently, there is a good chance that the Blavatsky
> material has lost a lot of its baraka. This is not good or bad, in that it
> always happens and is to be expected, but unless this is accounted for,
> there is going to be a lot of wasted effort and a continued pouring from
the
> empty into the void. What is baraka and how is it created? I believe this
> has something to do with a conscious aim in relationship to the physical
> substances that are created and emanated from a certain individual or
> individuals as a result of the making of a conscious effort to realize
this
> aim. It is a most interesting subject and Morton does seem to be pointing
us
> in the direction of exploring this. For now, maybe it is at least
something
> to ponder about. Sincerely, Wry
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Morten Nymann Olesen" <global-theosophy@adslhome.dk>
> To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 1:18 AM
> Subject: Re: Theos-World Blavatsky/Theosophy Websites & Resources
>
>
> > Hi Daniel and all of you,
> >
> > My views are only views:
> >
> > I was searching a little and I got this page:
> > http://www.katinkahesselink.net/his/on_shearman.html
> >
> > I think it proves, that one just should NOT blindly rely on any of the
> > Mahatma Letters to
> > be true or untrue in any manner what so ever.
> >
> > That is just my conclusion.
> >
> > Feel free to agree or disagree...etc...
> >
> >
> > from
> > M. Sufilight with peace and love...
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Daniel Caldwell" <danielhcaldwell@yahoo.com>
> > To: ".DanielHCaldwell" <danielhcaldwell@yahoo.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 2:16 AM
> > Subject: Theos-World Blavatsky/Theosophy Websites & Resources
> >
> >
> > > I've updated the following useful webpage:
> > >
> > > "Blavatsky/Theosophy Websites & Resources"
> > > http://www.blavatskyarchives.com/hpblinks.htm
> > >
> > > Feedback welcomed!
> > >
> > > Daniel H. Caldwell
> > >
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