Theos-Talk Archives (June 2003 Message tt00227)

Hi Sufilight,

First: You can't expect me to know which mails you are responding 
too, if you don't give a hint in the mail in question. 

Second: I am not ignoring you, obviously, so who is this mail 
adressed to?

Third: I agree the Mahatma Letters aren't for everybody. Is that all 
you were trying to say? You have an awfully complicated way of saying 
it. 

Fourth: I think the Mahatma Letters should be taken as a whole. The 
Mahatmas corrected mistakes from previous letters, for instance. So 
that all in all they form a very interesting body of material. As I 
think HPB said: occultists will usually be right in generalities, 
while in details they may be wrong. Read from that perspective, I 
think these letters can be highly interesting. Still, as HPB also 
said:

>> Collected Writings VOLUME XI, p. 466, October, 1889
>> I speak "with absolute certainty" only so far as my own personal 
belief is concerned. Those who have not the same warrant for their 
belief as I have, would be very credulous and foolish to accept it on 
blind faith. Nor does the writer believe any more than her 
correspondent and his friends in any "authority" let alone "divine 
revelation"! >> 

Which means that to take anything on faith only is foolish (her 
words). Theosophists usually try to avoid this, though of course, 
individual people have their blind spots. Speaking for myself here 
(usually a wise course) I think the literature from the Mahatmas and 
Blavatsky is highly interesting. Where I don't know they're right, I 
let it drop into my consciousness as a question, not an answer. 

As in: HPB says this and that, now what does she mean, what truth 
does she hint at, is there anything behind it, is it important? (if 
it isn't important I don't bother with it, for instance the Atlantis 
and Lemuria questions)

Katinka
--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "Morten Nymann Olesen" <global-
theosophy@a...> wrote:
> Hi Katinka and all of you,
> 
> My views in the below.
> 
> Katinka wrote:
> "You talk a lot about true theosophists - your version of them 
doesn't
> seem quite human."
> 
> My Sufilight answer:
> And why does'nt it - seem - so?
> And where does your word - "seem" - lead you?
> It leads to assumptions, and that is just not Knowledge.
> It is better to state that, - to some people - my version of "true
> Theosophy" - makes them
> embarrassingly aware of some of their own faults OR makes them 
ignore me.
> And others
> think that the words are allright...or something else. People are 
different.
> 
> Katinka wrote:
> "If a mahatma writes about their
> own work that it should not be studied, that is quite a different
> matter than somebody else saying: this shouldn't be studied. "
> 
> My Sufilight answer:
> I have one question: Who said, that the Mahatma Letters at all cost
> should'nt be studied ?
> I did certainly NOT. So why did you reach such a conclusion? I 
answered your
> question from an earliere email about something quite different.
> But if - as a fact and not as a belief - 80% of the readers here at
> Theos-Talk would waste their time reading all of the Mahatma 
Letters - then
> one aught to rethink encouraging them to do so ! Even so if you - 
your self
> (or anybody else) think that they are - just so extremly good - and 
written
> with high leveled Wisdom.
> I encourage people to think on various levels. I am against 
encouraging
> people to have a fanatical attitude when looking at the Mahatma 
Letters or
> talking about them. Who knows which one of them is false ?
> And maybe one or more of them are ! Well maybe...
> And maybe one or more are true ! Well maybe...
> But will it help anyone to claim that - xx - of them are allright 
and - yy -
> are bad.
> I do'nt think so, that is - unless you want to encourage fanatical
> behaviour.
> It is allright, that some want others to respect teachers - in a 
balanced
> manner. But stupidity should'nt be encouraged. But this is just my 
view -
> remember.
> 
> 
> Katinka wrote:
> "I think
> it is far more reasonable to say: study and find out for yourself. "
> 
> My Sufilight answer:
> "Yes exactly. But one could consider, what I have suggested in my 
previous
> emails on this matter. That would'nt hurt anyone interested - 
except those
> who cling to dead-letter Theosophy or who think that Belief is the 
same as
> Knowledge (or even Wisdom) and a few others here at Theos-Talk.
> With other words - think about HOW you study. Do not fool your small
> ignorant selves
> into thinking that the Mahatma Letters actually serves EVERYONE 
anything
> good, - because that will most certainly be a Theosophical lie.
> Important is, that Time and place for reading, - and the same on
> sorroundings, people, teacher(s) and pupil(s), - should rather be in
> harmony - than not.
> If you aught to help a friend of yours which you know are in need, -
you
> do'nt start
> of by reading the Mahatma Letters if that goes against this most 
highest
> priority of helping
> your friend. Everything in due time - and even sometimes NEVER."
> 
> 
> 
> And I can only hope that this helped the readers.
> Feel free to comment or do your best...
> 
> from
> M. Sufilight with peace and love...