Theos-Talk Archives (May 2003 Message tt00277)

Gregory, you wrote:

"It would be good if all the DES documents could be published 
together with a history of this important branch (if we can call it 
that) of the ES tradition within the TS."

If you can provide me with copies of these DES documents I will be 
willing to scan them and put them online at my website. I have 
already scanned one interesting DES document:

"To Applicants for Admission to the D.E.S."
http://www.geocities.com/danielhcaldwell/des.htm

You previously wrote that Crosbie issued a preliminary memorandum or 
something like that. That would be an interesting document to 
publish online.

One puzzling aspect of how the DES works is how ULT associates become 
aware of its existence. Some ULT associates have told me that they 
know absolutely nothing about such an organization. Others 
(especially some ex-associates) tell me that sometimes longtime 
members of the DES "hint" to regular ULTers about DES. What is your 
understanding of this issue?

Thanks for your reply.

Daniel

--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, <gregory@z...> wrote:
> Good question! I can only assume that (i) the ULT placed such 
emphasis on 
> there being no organization, no leadership and no authority within 
the 
> ULT (not, of course, the case in fact) that the acknowledgement of 
an 
> inner group would have been too threatening and would have 
undermined the 
> public claims, and (ii) the existence of a secret group that really 
was 
> kept secret provided greater status for the members of it. There 
are now 
> very few really secret groups .... the existence, if not the inner 
> teachings and rituals, of almost all secret societies are now 
scholarly, 
> if not common, knowledge. It would be good if all the DES documents 
could 
> be published together with a history of this important branch (if 
we can 
> call it that) of the ES tradition within the TS. I have had some 
> interesting conversations with ULT "important people" about the 
DES .... 
> no-one has ever denied its existence, but nor have they admitted 
it. 
> Rather like talking with Adyar people about the Egyptian Rite, the 
> details and rituals of which should also be published.
> Dr Gregory Tillett