Theos-Talk Archives (March 2003 Message tt00351)

WOW,

There is an actual discussion including content on here! Butting in 
as usual. Below. 
--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, leonmaurer@a... wrote:
> No. Unconditioned reality is the noumenal state of the Cosmos while 
it
> is resting in Paranishpanna, or asleep in Pralaya. That noumenal 
state 
> cannot be "scientized" -- since, in itself, it is unexpressed. 
Yet, 
> paradoxically, it is not the "Absolute," since it is a force in 
itself that 
> is in eternal motion ("spinergy"). Empty of form, but not empty of 
> potentiality of form. Thus, unconditioned, but not non-existent. 
> Chew on that. :-)
Chewing and totally disagreeing, I think.
I always understood the stanza's to have at least two meanings. One 
time dependent - as above: the universe was in paranishpanna ages 
ago. Now it is not. The fundamental ground of It was there, and 
nothing else was.
On the other hand (second meaning) - the fundamental ground never 
changed, is still there, unconditioned reality is the foundation of 
all our life here now. And our consciousness can get up (or down) to 
it. 
Maybe that is what you were saying - I don't know. I have trouble 
understanding most of what you write.

Katinka