Theos-Talk Archives (March 2003 Message tt00127)

Hi. Well, here is one comment, and maybe I will make another one in response
to your second message. I personally find any comments that refers to any
kind of sexual arousal or which might mechanically arouse a sexual response
in anyone, inappropriate and offensive on an email list such as this. I
suspected my remark might elicit such a response from you, as you made such
a response in the past when you found out I was a woman, and at that time I
found it very offensive, but didn't comment. I believe your message would be
particularly offensive to a woman, as it is a form of sexual stereotyping in
a way that is very degrading.

When I speak of myself as being one of the few around here wearing pants, I
am not referring to something sexual, but to having an active force, and it
well may be only my inflated opinion and not the actual truth, though it
probably is true, isn't it? You are also suggesting that a woman who is not
good looking (actually I am slim and very good looking for a woman who has
been post-menopausal for almost ten years and people generally believe I am
a whole lot younger) cannot enjoy sexual pleasure, and this is grossly
sexist. Anyway, I would not have sex with you as there would be no pay-off.
In a state of nature you would perhaps prevail, but on this list I AM. The
aim is to bring up the seed, not squander it. I am sorry if I offended any
men on here with my comment about wearing the pants, but any real man can
handle that sort of comment without responding like a two year old, as after
all, he does have a penis. What if you had a choice between # one: living
your whole life on earth having a penis and physically being an active force
in relationship to people of the opposite sex, but without developing a real
active force within yourself and therefore always being a passive reactive
mechanism in response to life, salivating like a laboratory rat at the sound
of a bell, and never learning how to elevate your seed and use it for
transformation, #two: being a CONSCIOUS woman with an active force AND A
REAL I and therefore a MASTER OF NATURE, and dying with a fully developed
soul rather than like a dog? Which would you choose? Think it over.

Re.the United Nations or capitalism or whatever, there is a way to work with
people in such a way as to align material so that it configures so as to
effect (seemingly as if by magic, but actually by scientific principles)
the trends and tendencies of broader humanity), My work of the last eleven
years is studying how to do this via the medium of bulletin board formats,
such as email lists. This is not necessarily why I am on here, but it is at
least always in my mind to learn more about how to do this when I come on an
email list, as what I am studying could benefit many people. Sincerely, Wry
p. (not pee) s. I have read four messages on sufism and will comment in the
future if you can control yourself. I am not saying I do not respect you,
but it is inappropriate to use sexual imagery in these circumstances. I do
not know if your have ever studied alchemical writings, but on occasion I
have seen it suggest that urine is an ingredient that can be used in the
making of the philosopher's stone.Literally, this is meaningless, but if
approached allegorically we can understand that we are in a difficult
situation and only by approaching it from within and without at the same
time, can a certain potential be harnessed, which could be very valuable to
many if used intelligently.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Morten Nymann Olesen" <global-theosophy@adslhome.dk>
To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 2:11 AM
Subject: Re: Theos-World Democracy American style


> Hi Wry and all of you,
>
>
> Well, well...
>
> Wry wrote:
> "I do not believe I am driving anyone off this list, but am actually
> > beginning to attract more people to it. Stick around and see what
happens,
> > but I will not be on here so much, anyway, as when the volume of
messages
> > gets this high, I must be out of here, at least for a while, as I am
about
> > to go back to digest, and if gets any worse, to just read from the list
> > page. Also, I am not a man, (though I might as well be as I seem to be
one
> > of the only ones wearing pants around here), but a grandmother.
Sincerely,
> > Wry"
>
> Well - ARE you good looking as well ?
> Then I would suggest that you take care, and don't get your panties
> wet...>:-)
> And besides, actually there are some, who are sort of non-phycically
present
> on this list.
> But maybe they are not important ?
>
> But go ahead try to make - it "stick" and alter the "United Nations" (or
> some other more or less international body) by making Theos-Talk into a
> picture (or a pair of panties) that suits you. No doubt that you will
LEARN
> more on - Peace, Love and respect - as well the rest on this list, -- the
> fool Sufilight included >:-).
>
>
> from
> M. Sufilight with peace... and love...
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "wry" <wry1111@earthlink.net>
> To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 10:42 AM
> Subject: Re: Theos-World Democracy American style
>
>
> > Hi. It looks like the only message you have ever written on here is this
> one
> > message about me. Which figures. This only goes to illustrate the
premise
> > that a super-conductor works better when it's dirty. I am sorry if I
have
> > caused you any pain or discomfort that you would not have been
> experiencing
> > already. When my karma for doing whatever I am doing comes to fruit, I
am
> > sure I will get my just reward.
> >
> > If you would like to share any ideas or inspiration out here or have any
> > questions, I am sure many besides myself would be glad to hear them, or
if
> > you have any questions for me, I would be glad to answer them. By your
> > participation, you can change this list, and in fact, you already have.
> The
> > sheep and the wolf are representations of different aspects of ourselves
> and
> > the conundrum we all find ourselves in. Until a human being learns how
to
> > eat consciously, he will always be food for something lower, and until
he
> > learns to sacrifice himself consciously, he will never be food for
> something
> > higher. Do you understand this? Think it over for an hour or ten hours
or
> > one hundred hours. Am I pretty nasty to share this with you or am I
nice?
> > Should I be horsewhipped and thrown off this list (instead of a few
> > "Nazis"), or should you be contacting me through pay pal?.The fact is
that
> > every message I have written on this list carries the same kind and
> quality
> > of material as this one.
> >
> > If you do not understand what I am doing on here, I hope someone does.
I
> > like to present material in such a way that it sticks (to your ribs like
a
> > good hearty meal) and does not just go in one door and out the other. I
do
> > not have that much of a choice about how to do this, as, in each
> situation,
> > there is generally only one "weigh." .
> >
> > I do not believe I am driving anyone off this list, but am actually
> > beginning to attract more people to it. Stick around and see what
happens,
> > but I will not be on here so much, anyway, as when the volume of
messages
> > gets this high, I must be out of here, at least for a while, as I am
about
> > to go back to digest, and if gets any worse, to just read from the list
> > page. Also, I am not a man, (though I might as well be as I seem to be
one
> > of the only ones wearing pants around here), but a grandmother.
Sincerely,
> > Wry
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <Graphinc@aol.com>
> > To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 12:34 AM
> > Subject: Re: Theos-World Democracy American style
> >
> >
> > > Hey, maybe you aught to read that again. You're not the only one who
> never
> > > knows what this guy means. All he likes to do is throw mud on what any
> > real
> > > theosophist (you too, maybe) says or thinks, calls them ignorant
> dummies,
> > > never asks them what they mean, talks nonsense all around the subject,
> > brags
> > > about own wisdom, and then thanks them for letting him pump up his own
> > ego.
> > > Nice how some people can build themselves up by putting everyone else
> > down.
> > > Spouts brotherhood but doesn't act it. Talks just opposite of
Blavatsky
> > but
> > > says he speaks for her. That's sincerity for ya. Been watching this
> talk
> > > show for about three months. Seems like this person is trying to drive
> > > everyone off who is serious about theosophy, and make all the rest his
> > sheep
> > > herd. Maybe a wolf in sheeps clothing, huh?
> > >
> > > In a message dated 03/07/03 3:05:51 PM, th.paijmans@wxs.nl writes:
> > >
> > > Hi Wry,
> > >
> > > I am not sure as to what you mean, but thank you nevertheless.
> > >
> > > Kind regards,
> > >
> > > Theo
> > >
> > > wry wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Theos. You will never run out of material such as the below, will
> > you?
> > > > There is always more. The further you get away from the core, the
less
> > "you"
> > > > there will be and the more a series of mechanical reactions. This
> takes
> > you
> > > > into the mouth of the wolf where, when ever the faint hope of
> something
> > new
> > > > or original starts to arise, it is immediately and continuously
> > devoured.
> > > > Because you do not have the discrimination to select material in
such
> a
> > way
> > > > that you can construct and design with it and apparently do not want
> to
> > > > learn how to do so, there is no way to reach you or connect with
you,
> > but
> > > > you are good to use as an example, and in this way, the wheat can be
> > more
> > > > efficiently separated from the chaff. This list is actually a good
> place
> > for
> > > > you, as there are many others like you, and a few who are not like
> you,
> > > > which makes a big contrast. Between the this and the that there is a
> > > > potential for a certain kind of material to be gleaned that can be
> used
> > as
> > > > food for the development of something higher in a few. In this way
> you,
> > too,
> > > > can be a participant in the establishment of a universal brotherhood
> > that
> > > > does not flounder over unrealistic and utopian ideals. People like
you
> > make
> > > > messages like this easy to write. Sincerely, Wry
> > >
> > >
> > >
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