Theos-Talk Archives (March 2003 Message tt00121)

Hi Erica and all of you,


My view is:
Hmm...
Apparently my words wasn't absorbed in the manner I intended.
My point writing the below remarks to Wry wasn't as I see it a personal
attack - litterally speaking.
My point was, that Wry has in her past 5 emails or so made a good job of
telling others
what they shouldn't do - and claiming that she knew better.
In this last email of hers I thought she went to far, and I wanted Wry to
understand, that she still needed learning and maybe som new "panties". I
didn't think I was attacking her. At least, that wasn't my intention.
I do'nt hope that I have offended anyone, Wry included.
Sorry if my english is a little rusty from time to time.

The question I will put to you is:
Do we not from time to time need to know, when we are doing something, which
is wrong ? And if so, when and how etc... ?
AND if never, - when will we then learn - if a personal - wellmeant -
remark is what realy IS needed ?
This list Theos-Talk exchanges views, allegories and information of
different kinds. The words used can always be interpreted in more than one
mode of thinking.
If you think there is an attack, well then that is your thought. And you
could ask your self the question why you reacted, in the manner you did.
Then you will learn, and that is good for you. Right ?

So to Wry I can only say: My last email to you was wellmeant. I honestly do
hope, that you take care.

Sometimes I feel, that a great number of Theosophist lack, what more
ordinary people would call - spiritual humor.
But maybe I am just throwing handfuls of crumb-words like the wellknown
Mulla Nashruddin:

{ SEE WHAT I MEAN? Nasrudin was throwing handfuls of crumbs around his
house. "What are you doing?" someone asked him. "Keeping the tigers away."
"But there are no tigers in these parts." "That's right. Effective, isn't
it?"}

And I don't hope, that Wry is a hindu sage or something. Well I do not, just
to mention it consider my self as being a dog of any kind what-so-ever, and
certainly not the one in the below joke... >:-) :

"A friend of mine once went to see the chief of state of a certain
country. When they were walking on the grounds of the presidential place, a
large and fierce-looking dog tore the loincloth off a Hindu guru who was
also
present and, barking loudly, cornered him by a wall. Now this guru had the
reputation of being able to tame tigers with a glance, but he obviously had
no such way with dogs, and he called out to my friend to do something.

The visitor said, "A barking dog does not bite."
"I know that and you know that," the guru shouted back, "but does the
dog know that?" ---"


I do hope, that you understand the jokes, and that you not do consider these
as a personal attack on you or others !

And maybe it is time for this "WC" Leadbeater debate (which some here at
Theos-Talk are concerned with) to leave its toilet or something and face the
present realities at United Nations. >:-)

And as for the boiling Europeans:
I don't hope, that the GreenHouse gases takes them all by surprise >:-)
Have a Smile....

Allright. It is (sort of) serious, what is going on at UN. I can agree on
that.
But, without the theater, which the USA-Iraq conflict have created, where
would the world be today ? I call it a theater, because according to me, the
conflict is (partly spiritually) constructed, so that people around the
world can develop by it. But, that is just my humble view, and I don't
expect people to agree or understand it. The problem is, if the theater runs
out of control or if it already for some days has been so.
According to me the last last remark is the true one. Bush some days back
went too far in his rethoric statements, and that is a price one has to pay.
It is often cold on the top, you know.
Control is according to me only reached again through a CLEAR and strong
opposition towards USA and Brittain etc... ! A wise opposition. If such an
clear and strong opposition not emerges, then a great number of people will,
I think, pay a though price. The present opposition seems to me to be almost
sizzy like. But, that is maybe a male thing I have.


And Erica - you are always welcome to mail me. I mean no harm.


from
M. Sufilight with peace...and love...and tears in his small eyes...




----- Original Message -----
From: "Erica Letzerich" <eletzerich@yahoo.com>
To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 12:09 PM
Subject: Re: Theos-World Democracy American style


>
> Dear Morten,
>
> The world is going through a very serious conflict
> today, and we don't need to have personal attacks in
> this group. I think everybody here is gathered around
> some Ideals, and somehow is trying to collaborate with
> something.
>
> Why to make personal attacks? Does the mind can't be
> concentrated in the ideas presented, and if there is
> any critic on the content of the messages why to make
> it personal?
>
> Erica Letzerich
>
>
>
>
> --- Morten Nymann Olesen
> <global-theosophy@adslhome.dk> wrote:
> > Hi Wry and all of you,
> >
> >
> > Well, well...
> >
> > Wry wrote:
> > "I do not believe I am driving anyone off this list,
> > but am actually
> > > beginning to attract more people to it. Stick
> > around and see what happens,
> > > but I will not be on here so much, anyway, as when
> > the volume of messages
> > > gets this high, I must be out of here, at least
> > for a while, as I am about
> > > to go back to digest, and if gets any worse, to
> > just read from the list
> > > page. Also, I am not a man, (though I might as
> > well be as I seem to be one
> > > of the only ones wearing pants around here), but a
> > grandmother. Sincerely,
> > > Wry"
> >
> > Well - ARE you good looking as well ?
> > Then I would suggest that you take care, and don't
> > get your panties
> > wet...>:-)
> > And besides, actually there are some, who are sort
> > of non-phycically present
> > on this list.
> > But maybe they are not important ?
> >
> > But go ahead try to make - it "stick" and alter the
> > "United Nations" (or
> > some other more or less international body) by
> > making Theos-Talk into a
> > picture (or a pair of panties) that suits you. No
> > doubt that you will LEARN
> > more on - Peace, Love and respect - as well the rest
> > on this list, -- the
> > fool Sufilight included >:-).
> >
> >
> > from
> > M. Sufilight with peace... and love...
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "wry" <wry1111@earthlink.net>
> > To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 10:42 AM
> > Subject: Re: Theos-World Democracy American style
> >
> >
> > > Hi. It looks like the only message you have ever
> > written on here is this
> > one
> > > message about me. Which figures. This only goes to
> > illustrate the premise
> > > that a super-conductor works better when it's
> > dirty. I am sorry if I have
> > > caused you any pain or discomfort that you would
> > not have been
> > experiencing
> > > already. When my karma for doing whatever I am
> > doing comes to fruit, I am
> > > sure I will get my just reward.
> > >
> > > If you would like to share any ideas or
> > inspiration out here or have any
> > > questions, I am sure many besides myself would be
> > glad to hear them, or if
> > > you have any questions for me, I would be glad to
> > answer them. By your
> > > participation, you can change this list, and in
> > fact, you already have.
> > The
> > > sheep and the wolf are representations of
> > different aspects of ourselves
> > and
> > > the conundrum we all find ourselves in. Until a
> > human being learns how to
> > > eat consciously, he will always be food for
> > something lower, and until he
> > > learns to sacrifice himself consciously, he will
> > never be food for
> > something
> > > higher. Do you understand this? Think it over for
> > an hour or ten hours or
> > > one hundred hours. Am I pretty nasty to share this
> > with you or am I nice?
> > > Should I be horsewhipped and thrown off this list
> > (instead of a few
> > > "Nazis"), or should you be contacting me through
> > pay pal?.The fact is that
> > > every message I have written on this list carries
> > the same kind and
> > quality
> > > of material as this one.
> > >
> > > If you do not understand what I am doing on here,
> > I hope someone does. I
> > > like to present material in such a way that it
> > sticks (to your ribs like a
> > > good hearty meal) and does not just go in one door
> > and out the other. I do
> > > not have that much of a choice about how to do
> > this, as, in each
> > situation,
> > > there is generally only one "weigh." .
> > >
> > > I do not believe I am driving anyone off this
> > list, but am actually
> > > beginning to attract more people to it. Stick
> > around and see what happens,
> > > but I will not be on here so much, anyway, as when
> > the volume of messages
> > > gets this high, I must be out of here, at least
> > for a while, as I am about
> > > to go back to digest, and if gets any worse, to
> > just read from the list
> > > page. Also, I am not a man, (though I might as
> > well be as I seem to be one
> > > of the only ones wearing pants around here), but a
> > grandmother. Sincerely,
> > > Wry
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: <Graphinc@aol.com>
> > > To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 12:34 AM
> > > Subject: Re: Theos-World Democracy American style
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hey, maybe you aught to read that again. You're
> > not the only one who
> > never
> > > > knows what this guy means. All he likes to do is
> > throw mud on what any
> > > real
> > > > theosophist (you too, maybe) says or thinks,
> > calls them ignorant
> > dummies,
> > > > never asks them what they mean, talks nonsense
> > all around the subject,
> > > brags
> > > > about own wisdom, and then thanks them for
> > letting him pump up his own
> > > ego.
> > > > Nice how some people can build themselves up by
> > putting everyone else
> > > down.
> > > > Spouts brotherhood but doesn't act it. Talks
> > just opposite of Blavatsky
> > > but
> > > > says he speaks for her. That's sincerity for
> > ya. Been watching this
> > talk
> > > > show for about three months. Seems like this
> > person is trying to drive
> > > > everyone off who is serious about theosophy, and
> > make all the rest his
> > > sheep
> > > > herd. Maybe a wolf in sheeps clothing, huh?
> > > >
> > > > In a message dated 03/07/03 3:05:51 PM,
> > th.paijmans@wxs.nl writes:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Wry,
> > > >
> > > > I am not sure as to what you mean, but thank you
> > nevertheless.
> > > >
> > > > Kind regards,
> > > >
> > > > Theo
> > > >
> > > > wry wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Theos. You will never run out of material
> > such as the below, will
> > > you?
> > > > > There is always more. The further you get away
> > from the core, the less
> > > "you"
> > > > > there will be and the more a series of
> > mechanical reactions. This
> > takes
> > > you
> > > > > into the mouth of the wolf where, when ever
> > the faint hope of
> > something
> > > new
> > > > > or original starts to arise, it is immediately
> > and continuously
> > > devoured.
> > > > > Because you do not have the discrimination to
> > select material in such
> > a
> > > way
> > > > > that you can construct and design with it and
> > apparently do not want
> >
> === message truncated ===
>
>
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