Re: Theos-World Re: On Reincarnaiton -- Questions & Answers
Feb 16, 2003 06:46 AM
by cesar joanino
dear leon
i guess what you had stated is truth.this anti semetic rantings must be stop
it is annoying whether this people who claimed to be the master race before
is remembered as murderers who blindly follow a setting of mass murders and
extermination of a race,who causes world war II that almost destroy the
entire civilisation of europe who shows to the world a form of barbarism
wanton destruction of human life properties a truth undeniable and leave a
permanent marks in the annals of human history.
i guss theosophy has nothing to do with this .it was misinterpreted and use
to advance a negative cause to achieve power by misguidance,and therefore
was able to justify the murders torture of other race very selfish indeed
and misleading.the days of nazi germany is gone but the legacy it leaves is
unforgrttable so stop this ranting it is all over we must work for the best
of our planet so that in the long run we reaf a good karma for ourselves and
for all
cesar
From: leonmaurer@aol.com
Reply-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: On Reincarnaiton -- Questions & Answers
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 05:59:46 EST
Herr Reitemeyer:
Your continued irrational anti semitic and anti American rantings are
getting
to be a bore.
If that's your idea of evidence based on opinions or random remarks by
equally misled, prejudiced, or mistaken people (regardless of their
notoriety) -- about a subject that can be proven scientifically -- then
your
paranoid prejudicial nonsense that judges entire groups of people by their
belief in a particular religion, their distinctive conditions or physical
characteristics, or the actions of their ancestors in an entirely different
historical epoch -- is as ignorant, arrogant, false, and as viciously
RACIST
as the "Master Race" philosophies promulgated by Hitler and the countless
thousands of your German elitist compatriots who agreed with and followed
his
Nazi party lines and participated in or looked the other way during the
enslavement and murdering of 6 million "inferior" people during WW2. Do
all
those who abhor such evil acts have the right, now and in perpetuity, to
condemn and persecute the entire German people as a "race" (as if there
could
be such a thing) for the crimes of their ancestors? Your kind of twisted
racist reasoning is the only thing that might condone such a response.
You can't deny these truths, because I was there in 1945 (in Military
Intelligence as a Historical Photographer and communication expert) and saw
the bodies, ovens and mass graves, and helped verify the body counting from
all the Nazi concentration camps -- as well as printed and correlated the
photographic files, some of which were used later at the Nuremberg trials.
I
also processed in my lab in Darmstadt, hundreds of rolls of film taken
unofficially by front line soldiers who liberated some of those camps.
While
the government didn't want to release those ugly pictures in the US -- (for
political reasons, I suppose, fearing a kick back from the American public
because of the former Nazi rocket scientists and technicians they were
bringing out as well as the Marshall Plan contracts for rebuilding of
Germany
's infrastructure) -- I was instrumental in smuggling many official and
unoficial prints of the ovens, bodies and open graves out of Germany and
leaking them to the US press in November of 1945, while other friends in MI
and OSS leaked the total body count numbers. Since those pictures were
also
used to help finance the Israeli Army on Cypress in 1946 with ships, guns
and
ammunition, you might as well blame me for the "Return to Israel" of the
Jewish nation. :-)
From my experience with interrogating military officers and other German
officials after WW2, you sound now like you (if you were old enough then)
would have been an ideal member of the SS. As a self professed
theosophist,
you make a travesty of the teachings of HPB about Universal Brotherhood and
the ethical/moral principles of theosophy... Since, all you seem to be able
to extract from the SD is the same Aryan racism and anti Semitism the
Nazi's
intentionally misinterpreted, distorted and propagandized to justify their
inhumanities, including slavery and extermination of Jews and other falsely
labeled "inferior races" -- to achieve world conquest and make "lebensraum"
for German Aryan Master Racists like yourself -- who base their judgements
of
superiority on the outward characteristics of one's physical body shape and
color.
As all your opinions seem to be based on your own personal hatreds and
prejudices, rooted in your arrogant, elitist, German Master Race warrior
culture mentality, why should anyone believe you about anything? Even your
selective historical research appears to be obviously colored by your
personal inbred racist and anti-Semitic beliefs, biases, misjudgments, and
preconceptions.
In any event, how could the sins of the fathers be the karma of their sons?
What difference would it make if someone was the descendant of Moses or any
other ancient Hebrew, Israelite, Sepahardic, or "Ashkenazi" Jew? And even
if
those people's ancestors did something you consider as evil, what relation
would that have to the guilt or innocence of their modern descendants?
What
gives you the right to judge them? What kind of "authorities" on race or
religion are all those famous people whose names you dropped? Saying you
have all their "statements" and can pull them out of your records is just a
lot of "implied lie" (or "sly lie" as we called it in the trade) propaganda
bluster. And, even if you could dig them out, what scientific value would
such opinionated non-evidence have? And, what is the nature of an
"artificial race" (unless its the fact that you and your kind have
arbitrarily and prejudicially "created" the Hebrew religionists as a race
in
your own minds, so as to justify your own racism and anti-Semitism)? And,
what do the "political and geographical implications" of your innuendo
loaded
questions have to do with proving your case that such so called "Jews" are
a
race? Such tricky propaganda ploys are as transparent as water. Talk
about
a joker (or should I say downright prevaricator)? -- you take the cake.
Therefore, to anyone with any discernment, your statements below -- as well
as in all your previous anti-Semitic and Hitler's Master Race justifying
diatribes, denials of the holocaust and other historical realities, that
sound like nothing more than the irrational ranting of a small minded,
paranoid racist and conspiracy freak -- would appear to be a lot of
claptrap
with no rational or scientific credibility whatsoever.
LHM
(One might also wonder what the German or American federal authorities
might
say about such Neo-Nazi, anti Semitic, racist, and antigovernment
propaganda
you regularly spew out publicly on the Internet open access mail lists?)
In a message dated 02/14/03 4:21:12 PM, dhyana@web.de writes:
r
>Leon:
>of religious believers (Jews are neither a tribe nor a race) would have
>to
>
>Nice joke.
>I have hundreds of statements from leading Jews past and present that
Jews
>are a race, from Karl Marx over Benjamin Disraeli to Benjamin Franklin,
>Menachim Begin and Chaim Weizmann.
>Do you want me to go to my shelves and look for them?
>And why did HPB classify the Jews as a race? Moreover as an artificial
race?
>Another question would be: Are the Jews today the decendants of the
historical
>and biblical Hebrews or not? And if not, if they actually were just
Ashkenazins
>what political and geographical implications would follow from it?
>Frank
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