Theos-Talk Archives (January 2003 Message tt00681)

Jan 30 2003

Re: H P B and her Teachings.

Dear Wry:

I look at your posting below:

Seems to me to sort out a “mixed-up” estimate of H P B ‘s
writings we need to decide:

1. Is the Universe under LAW or not ?

2. Is “Thought” more valuable than “no-thought” ( or
blind belief ) ?

3. Is there any evident “purpose” if the existence of
ourselves, the Earth, and the universe?

4. If literal interpretations induce “dogma,” then, is it
because they require of readers the discipline of logical
thought?

5. You say H P B was “mixed-up.” Can you give
illustrations ?

6. You also say H P B was “spiritually IMMATURE,” Can you
say how? I am curious about the way in which “spirituality” can
be graded or rated. Is there any table or any criteria we can
understand ?

7. Is the concept of UNIVERSAL BROTHERHOOD untenable or
immature?

Do help me,

Best wishes,

Dallas

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-----Original Message-----
From: wry [mailto:wry1111@earthlink.net]
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 11:10 AM
To: Theosophy Study List
Cc: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Wry on Blavatsky part one

Hi. I personally do not believe this is the time on earth for
people to practice individual religions, but most people will not
give up their religion until they have something to replace it
with. All major organic religions are designed, tested and
fine-tuned over many hundreds of years by many individuals, not
just one, to convey material to individuals of various levels of
understanding by the means of allegory in story, art and ritual,
in such a way that it can be organically assimilated onto their
functioning in such a way that there is TRANSCENDENCE. True, when
people interpret this symbolism literally, it crystallizes into
dogma, and this is a big problem, but at least there is a change
for certain material to be conveyed.

With theosophy, it is different. It does NOT succeed in doing
this.. Blavatsky was too mixed up. She had certain knowledge, but
did NOT understand how to present it. She was quite developed in
some ways, but in other ways, she was spiritually IMMATURE. This
is why the conditions she established, as part of an
interconnected continuum, led to what someone on here recently
dismissed as "the Krishnamurti incident." Any mature spiritual
person would need to reject her teaching in order to fulfil the
prophecy of actually becoming a great world teacher.

Just as, if religion is not working, there is are reasons, so
also, if theosophy is not working there are reasons, but all of
the reasons are not exactly the same. I believe she was
successful in that she brought eastern teachings to the west at a
certain time, but as far as achieving the aim of a universal
brotherhood, theosophy will not work unless there is a different
approach. I am willing to enquire into this with members of this
list. The Order Of The Star was dissolved by its leader. It is
over. You are acting as if still exists, but it does not. It is
impossible to work this all out without enquiring deeply. If no
one is interested in doing this, nothing will change. This is
sad.

No Buddhist, Hindu, Roman Catholic, Jew or Muslim or whatever is
going to give up his FINELY-TUNED, though perhaps
time-appropriate religion, which, at the very least, can create a
state of deep reverence which resonates within, no matter how
imperfect it is, to read the confused writings of Madame
Blavatsky. In my opinion, theosophy in its present form will not
accomplish the aim for which it was designed. Wry
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