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Re[2]: Comparative quotatons

Jan 19, 2003 12:39 PM
by James Davis

lac> I think that the joke's on Bailey. The world will never buy her
lac> phony...

These quotes are out of context, but it shows what can be done if one
has a motivation to do so. Personally, I love both teachings despite
their respective limitations and the potentials for misuse through
reading of letter rather than spirit and through failing to take the
time to read carefully and in context.


"The negro in some respects makes a slight approximation towards the
Simian type. His skull is narrower, his brain less capacious, his
muzzle more projecting, his arm longer than those of the average
European man. Still he is essentially a man, and separated by a wide
gulf from the chimpanzee or the gorilla."

H. P. Blavatsky, [[Vol. 2, Page]] 678 THE SECRET DOCTRINE

"I call you to no organizational loyalties, but only to love your
fellowmen, be they German, American, Jewish, British, French, Negro
or Asiatic. I call you from your dreams of vague beauty, impossible
Utopias and wishful thinking to face life as it is today; and then to
begin, in the place where you are, to make it better. I call you to
the experiment of right human relations, beginning with your own
personal relations to your family and friends, and then [211] to the
task of educating those you contact so that they also start a similar
work. It is the work of attaining right individual relations, right
group relations, right inter-group relations, right national relations
and right international relations. I call you to the realization that
in this work no one is futile or useless, but that all have a place
of practical value. I call you to recognize that goodwill is a
dynamic energy which can bring about world changes of a fundamental
kind, and that its mode of expression is through the activity of the
individual man and woman and through their massed intent. The massed
power of goodwill, the dynamic effect of intelligent and active
understanding, and the potency of a trained and alive public opinion
which desires the greatest good of the greatest number, are beyond
belief. This dynamic power has never been employed. It can,
today,save the world."

Alice Bailey & Djwhal Khul - The Externalization of the Hierarchy

lac> And that makes AAB a lover of Sufis, eh? 

lac> Sounds like the Anti Semitic remark made by a bigot in the book/movie 
lac> "Gentlemen's Agreement"... "Some of my best friends are Jews." Even Hitler 
lac> had some Jewish friends (some of his international banking financers were 
lac> Jewish). (Most Arabs and Muslims are Semites, by the way, and many Jews are 
lac> pure Aryans.) Aren't most Sufi's also Semites? Since Semites, Negroids, 
lac> Hammites, Mongols, etc., are simply slightly "physically" different branches 
lac> of the same spiritual tree of the fifth Manu -- aren't their spirits, 
lac> intuitive and rational minds and brains at the same level of involutional and 
lac> evolutionary development? Doesn't this make them all parts of the same root, 
lac> sub-root and family of Mankind as the so called Aryan Caucasians? Isn't 
lac> there only one Humanity? Isn't this what Universal Brotherhood really 
lac> signifies? Is it right to allow the physical actions or beliefs of 
lac> individuals or small groups (of more or less ignorant beings) to determine 
lac> how one judges these entire branches of the same Humanity? What have 
lac> physical determinations to do with spiritual or monadic identity/unity? 
lac> Aren't such judgments solely the prerogative of Karma? Is that why the 
lac> "Real" Chohan builders and "Masters of Light," themselves, refuse to and 
lac> teach us NOT to interfere with anyone's natural karmic path? Wouldn't such 
lac> actions be the ultimate disturbance of natural harmony? And, isn't that the 
lac> ultimate crime against nature (and Humanity) that only those "dark" Chohans 
lac> of the Shadow who rebelled, could commit? Isn't this what the "War in 
lac> Heaven" was (and is) all about?

lac> So what does all that mean in the face of AAB's and FB's obvious anti 
lac> Semitism (which, with the sanction of their dark side Chohan DK, lumps all 
lac> Arabian Muslims, Sufis and Hebrews together)? Since when does theosophical 
lac> knowledge or wisdom give anyone the right to make political, religious, 
lac> racial, or karmic judgments? 

lac> Sorry, I can't give any quotes, since I haven't the Lucis Trust library on 
lac> hand ... But, they are easy to find from a careful search on the web... And 
lac> someone has already posted the Bailey's (and DK's) opinions about Jews, 
lac> "other inferior races, and "obsolete religions" on this e-mail forum. So, 
lac> maybe you should go argue with Hannah Newman at the Rainbow Swastika site: 
lac> Her documentation, while a bit religiously biased, is excellent. 
lac> Unfortunately, she puts all theosophy, original or modified, in the same 
lac> basket -- like AAB categorizes all humanity other than the "Star Children" as 
lac> being outside the "New World Order" of the "New Age." Is this the indication 
lac> of a new "caste system" after the New Order is established? It's 
lac> interesting, however, that HPB never suggested theosophy becoming the 
lac> religion and government of the world. I also thought the Masters taught that 
lac> "Maitreya" wasn't supposed to return to Earth until the end of the Kali Yuga, 
lac> 400,000 odd years from now. So, who's kidding whom? Sufi's know. Kabbalists 
lac> know. Theosophists know. Why don't you? Or, are you already so brainwashed 
lac> by your belief in DK (based on someone else's say so) as being the Chohan who 
lac> taught HPB, that you can't see the light (in the face of their obvious 
lac> distortion of the Fundamental Principles the SD is based on, that Dk claims 
lac> to have "dictated")? What makes you think that just because AAB claims DK 
lac> said so, that anything he asserts is true? What makes AAB an authority -- 
lac> about anything cooked up in her mind that she may have partially learned as a 
lac> theosophist and then twisted to fit her conditioned (by her family and 
lac> husband's) religious beliefs, coupled with the distorted ideas of AB and CWL? 
lac> What a joke.

lac> I think that the joke's on Bailey. The world will never buy her phony 
lac> mystical/magical, materially oriented racial crap... Although, the world's 
lac> Nazi's and other "globalizing" power bosses sure will take advantage of it -- 
lac> before it kicks back in their faces. In the long run, Darth Vader's evil 
lac> Empire (which this "New World Order" is a reflection of) cannot win. Since, 
lac> the sign of the 5th Root Humanity is the potential development of Manas in 
lac> its fifth, rational aspect -- everyone on Earth today is potentially a part 
lac> of it. When the 6th or Buddhi aspect of mind opens in their children 
lac> naturally, karma and the conditions and evolution of the world will take care 
lac> of the necessary adjustments without need of a newly packaged, man made 
lac> puppet Messiah/Dictator (the "Hierarchy" supposedly pulling the strings -- 
lac> which is a good way to pass the buck) with better credentials than Hitler 
lac> had, and with a cleverer, less brutal way of culling the world's excess 
lac> population of so called "Hierarchy" chosen scapegoats -- such as 
lac> "compassionate conservatism." (I wonder which Lucis Trust advisor dreamed up 
lac> that slogan.?:-) In this scenario, the easiest and best way to get rid of 
lac> those "drags on society" would be to cutoff their patent medicines, food, and 
lac> other social services and let them die naturally. (And, aren't we all already 
lac> seeing them doing it?) If Shakespeare were here today, he'd probably write a 
lac> very sadly funny play about such a farce. (Maybe, he's already here and 
lac> started on it so it will be ready for Broadway when the New Age-New World 
lac> Order-Messiah shows up in the flesh. I can't wait to see it. ;-)

lac> In the meantime, I have a question for Wry (or the group, if they can answer 
lac> it)... Besides cooking, cleaning, washing the dishes, working, making honey 
lac> (or is that, money), etc., and observing it all impartially without thinking 
lac> about what is happening in the world (which seems to me to be a bit like Zen 
lac> without its Buddha vision) -- what else (besides not worrying about it) do we 
lac> have to do to become spiritually awakened enough to be able to counteract the 
lac> magic of the dark side New World Orderers that intend to readjust our 
lac> individual and group karma against our will, and/or make us live, think, 
lac> learn, work, worship, pray, etc., and/or die in this world according to their 
lac> dictates? 

lac> Hopefully, 
lac> (we'll all see the light -- when we each put on the cap of clear vision.)

lac> LHM 

lac> P.S. But, not too clear -- so as to see the true reality from only one of its 
lac> four directions. (That is, until the other three are fully awakened. ;-)

lac> In a message dated 01/17/03 4:13:53 AM, writes:

>>>bring their questions to the group? 
>>Just responding to questions wry, as I was invited to do by several 
>>members. It might just matter to Mr Sufiwatsit as Khan was a Sufi - 
>>though you probably know that...

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