Theos-Talk Archives (January 2003 Message tt00280)

Dear Mr. Wry, 

Please excuse the caps in the notes below.

BA G/// Many of your posts here are incredibly arrogant and insulting to
> people. You seem to like to analyze others, but have you analyzed
> why it is that you consistantly treat people here so badly ? Or are
> you oblivious to the fact that you often treat people in such a
> puffed-up offensive manner ?


WRY'S RESPONSE TO MY LETTER
"In any case, you are insulting me by calling me arrogant and insulting. If
you think I am such, have compassion for me and show me the right way to
act."

BA G I BOTH TOLD YOU AND GAVE YOU A PERSONAL EXAMPLE OF THE RIGHT WAY TO ACT, BY POINTING OUT MY OWN SINCERE APOLOGY FOR A MISTAKE I HAD MADE. 

WRY "I believe you are lacking a sense of perspective and too wrapped up in
yourself and what people think of you. You are busy defending yourself, whom
you perceive to have been attacked, but I do not see you out here defending
anyone else who has been so called slandered or attacked. Sincerely, Wry"

BA G NO WHERE IN MY LETTER DID I SAY THAT YOU HAD "SLANDERED" ME. I POINTED OUT YOUR UNWARRANTED REMARKS TO OR ABOUT OTHERS. SEE BELOW. 


BA G'S DEFENSE OF OTHERS

///Why take a cheap shot at them on this site?

//// So now you are debating with which graduate student?

/// Why are you taking such an attitude to this fellow?


WRY Don't worry about so called slander,

BA G I NEVER SAID THAT YOU SLANDERED ME

BA G Why do you consistantly take such an attiude towards people ?

> /// Many of your posts here are incredibly arrogant and insulting to
> people. You seem to like to analyze others, but have you analyzed
> why it is that you consistantly treat people here so badly ? Or are
> you oblivious to the fact that you often treat people in such a
> puffed-up offensive manner ?

WRY: This is how I LOVE. You just don't recognize it as such. These words
can't hurt you anyway. It is just your imagination, compounded by negative
emotions.


BA G >>Or are you just habitually offensive with people 


BA G Can you discuss ideas with people without insulting them ?



WRY you are attacking me. Maybe it is my karma to be attacked. 


BA G >>This letter is not an attack on you.It is a response to observing your behavior with others for over an month now.


BA G Why are you so arrogant and insulting to people ? It is unneccessary.

BA G I BELIEVE THAT YOUR APOLOGIES ARE SINCERE, AND THAT YOU HAVE BECOME VERY CONFUSED BY SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU HAVE LEARNED. THESE THINGS HAVE RENDERED YOU PRESENTLY INCAPABLE OF NORMAL HUMAN INTERACTIONS AND COMMUNICATION AS EVIDENCED BY SO MANY OF YOUR EXCHANGES ON THIS EGROUP. YOU NEED THE REALITY THERAPY OF PEOPLE WHO WILL HONESTLY TELL YOU WHEN YOU ARE TALKING (OR WRITING) LIKE A PERSON IN A DELUSIONAL STATE. 


WRY: It is hard Work for something impartial that has no opinion to record
myself as a physicality, in present time, while "I" (it) is having a
reaction or whatever is going on, without analyzing it or even naming it.

BA G > MR WRY, THIS KIND OF CONFUSED 'DISASSOCIATIVE' THINKING IS NOT A SIGN OF SPIRITUAL ADVANCEMENT, IT IS A SIGN OF METAL OR AFFECTIVE ILLNESS, OR BEING TERRIBLY CONFUSED BY A PATHOLOGICAL BELIEF SYSTEM. 

WRY: Maybe I am a LIVING MASTER or maybe I am IGNORANT AND SUFFERING and
this is how I relieve my pain for a moment or two.Maybe I do not even know
why, or maybe I do, but if I do know, why should I tell you? This question
is infantile, like tearing the wings off a butterfly to try to find its
beauty.

BA G THIS KIND OF THINKING AND DESTRUCTIVE IMAGERY IS AN INDICATION THAT YOU NEED HELP. YOU MAY BE VERY INTELLIGENT AND ACCOMPLISHED, AND A VERY LOVING PERSON, BUT YOU HAVE SOME PROBLEMS AS EVIDENCED BY STATEMENTS LIKE THIS IN YOUR LETTERS. 


BA G AS FOR MY OWN PROBLEMS, ALL OF MY ADULT LIFE I HAVE BEEN SURROUNDED BY HINDUS WHO THINK THAT ALL OF MY PHYSICAL AFFLICTIONS ARE DUE TO MY BAD KARMA, BUT I HAVE NOT TRIED TO HIDE THAT I AM AFFLICTED ON THIS SITE, WHERE THIS FACT WILL CERTAINLY BRING ME MORE BAD-KARMA JUDGEMENT FROM THE THEOSOPHICAL BAD-KARMA DETECTORS.
FURTHERMORE I HAVE A SON AND DAUGHTER IN THEIR 30s, AND 11 GRANDCHILDREN AND NUMEROUS FRIENDS WHO DO NOT HESITATE TO TELL ME WHAT MY FAULTS ARE, AND TO FIND HUMOR IN MY SANNYASI-DOM OR THE OTHER ODDITIES OF LIFE. BUT ONE THING THEY DO NOT THINK IS THAT MY "...negative emotions are making you sick, or at least greatly factoring into your illness." 

BA G I HAVE A GREAT LOVE FOR PEOPLE, WHICH HAS BEEN PROVEN OVER A LIFETIME OF SELFLESS SERVICE. THIS LOVE IS ALSO FELT AS A POSITIVE EMOTION, WHICH SUSTAINS ME THROUGH ALL MY SUFFERINGS. THIS LOVE IS THERE FOR YOU AS MUCH AS IT IS FOR MY DAUGHTER OR SON OR ANYONE ELSE. SOMETIMES WHEN I AM CONCERNED FOR SOMEONE, OUT OF LOVE I WILL SPEAK FRANKLY TO THEM. SUCH FRANK SPEAKING IS NOT AN ATTACK. IT IS OUT OF SUCH CONCERN FOR YOU THAT I WROTE MY PREVIOUS FRANK LETTER TO YOU, AND THAT I AM WRITING THIS LETTER. I ALSO TAKE YOUR COMMENT ABOUT NEGATIVE EMOTIONS AS AN EXPRESSION OF YOUR GENUINE CONCERN FOR ME, AND THANK YOU FOR IT. I AM USED TO BEING TOLD THAT I AM SICK BECAUSE OF BAD KARMA, AND I APPRECIATE THAT THE STRANGERS WHO TELL ME THIS THINK IT IS SOMETHING THAT I NEED TO HEAR, OVER AND OVER AGAIN FOR YEARS. HOWEVER PEOPLE WHO KNOW ME WELL, AND KNOW MY VOWS, HAVE A DIFFERENT VIEW OF MY 'BAD KARMA' SUFFERING, AND THEREFORE DON'T FEEL THE NECESSITY TO TELL ME ABOUT IT. 

BEST WISHES,

BHAKTI ANANDA GOSWAMI


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