Theos-Talk Archives (January 2003 Message tt00062)

Jan 4 2003

Dear Friends:

The question really revolves about the idea that joining some group,
society, or church gives a person some special advantage.

Theosophy and the Masters of Wisdom have demonstrated at every step
that it is unsectarian and universal in scope. But this said, one has
to set about to prove it.

Lets start with the proposition that no one owns TRUTH.

History as fact is invariable. Apologists later may seek later on to
explain the motives for choices and events.

Theosophy makes only one claim and that is: it presents in a
condensed form the HISTORY of evolution and of the qualities and
potentials that underlie this continuing event.

Truth is fact and independent of anyone or anything.

The Masters of WISDOM, by definition, are the most advanced students
and knowers of facts and truths we know of. (S D I 272-3 ) They
claim they were present when the evolutionary thrust began. They also
say we were there but we were in relatively inexperienced stage of our
development. They state that Nature preserves a complete record in
the AKASA of all the events that they offer, so that we may verify
them when we acquire the power to read in the Akasa.

All that we know of Theosophy has come though H P B as Their
Messenger. But, we cannot adopt any specific attitude unless we,
through study, are prepared to explain this fully.

Where do we contact Them? I say: In our own HIGHER SELF -- (the 6th
and 7th Principles -- ATMA and BUDDHI, present in every human, as well
as everywhere, in every being, in every "atom" in Nature.) Every
Monad is potentially a "Higher Self" advancing as an immortal Pilgrim
through the experiences of the whole vast Universal evolutionary
journey. We as one of those Monads are mid-way. Our minds give
access to the Material and to the Spiritual sides of potential life.
We are therefore endowed as free-willed beings with the capacity to
choose. A study of the virtues and the vices and their relation to
universal law as it operates in nature is essential. This is what
Buddha, Krishna, Jesus, Zoroaster, Hermes, Pythagoras, Plato, and all
great Sages and reformers taught and now teach.

The clue is that wisdom and true knowledge always enlarges and
universalizes. Any time one finds restrictions made or claimed, one
can be sure that the claims or statements are not accurate. The
nature of the flaw has to be determined by the student-enquirer.

They, the MASTERS, are Universal. And "They" are the "property" of no
creed or sect.

The (or any) THEOSOPHICAL SOCIETY, if it claims to be the sole channel
to the Masters, is in error. No one who proclaims this can prove it.

I would challenge any one to advance written proof of the Masters, or
of H P B, stating, unequivocally, that the THEOSOPHICAL SOCIETY is
such a sole channel.

Many statements are made concerning the value of the THEOSOPHICAL
SOCIETY but mere membership or adherence to it gives no one any
special advantages. This will be found to be the basis made for every
sect or creed -- some special favor or advantage -- illogical and
untrue.

We can demonstrate that for ourselves, if we desire to find out by
reading what They have written. Use the MAHATMA LETTERS . Thousands
of articles and books have been published illustrating various
Theosophical "truths," or "Laws," more or less correctly. In the
final analysis every student decides for themselves what is useful and
true.

Theosophy like mathematics has a logic that runs through it and makes
it coherent -- we have to seek that and apply it to anything we read
or study. But we have to do the work using our Higher Principles and
Higher Mind in that work.

If you take my assurance as correct, then you can be making the error
of choosing me as an :"authority." I am not. I merely say you can
find out for yourself. Then, you become the authority for what you
know or have reasoned out. Truth is a common factor, and is shared
and participated in by all -- no exclusions. None of us are in any
better position by mere membership..

Theosophy is self-proving, and the Masters demonstrate this in
everything they have written.

Best wishes,

Dallas.


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---Original Message-----
From: Mort
Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 6:07 AM
To:
Subject: Theosophical doctrine - or secterian behavoir ?

Hi all of you,

My view is:

I here ask a question because of need for clarification.

Is the below true ? And if so, for which theosophical organizations
and groups is this true ?:


"The T.S. claims that only its members can be disciples of the Masters
of Wisdom."


It will be helpfull if someone would or could give an answer to this.

The reason for this simple question is due to the seemingly fact, that
here at Theos-Talk and elsewhere on the Planet there is by some people
a supported view of "Biblical" doctrine (i.e. clinging selectively to
books from certain authors - for instance - like Blavatsky, Judge
etc...), and that this is the day of the order, when we deal with the
wisdom tradition - or what some would call the meaning of life.
Blavatsky promoted the view, that we cull the GOOD, we find in each
book and system of doctrine... ("The Key to Theosophy"; Section 2) But
how does each group view this idea, - and do they follow this view,
one could ask.

Of course we all (or nearly all) have our favorite books and authors,
which we use and/or get inspired from. Time passes though.

But how do Theosophical groups and organizations BEST avoid becoming
secterian, - and thereby avoiding to promote a narrowminded view on
which books are accepted as theosophical, and which organizations are
acppeted or not ? And do they succed in that at present ?

I think this has importance.

Theosophy and also the wisdom tradition are by definition not
sectarian.

And should not be promoted as such. Those, who think so, are not
promoting real Theosophy and living wisdom.

There are at present at least four groups - on
theosophical-book-doctrine - if we JUST mention those using the name
of "theosophy" when talking about the wisdom tradition - (i.e. the
teaching on ancient wisdom from all ages).

a) Those who cling to only a few books, (maybe being afraid for
'building on sand instead of on a rock')

b) Those who cling to the doctrine anything goes - or almost anything
(i.e. if the book contains just one word on theosophy then it is
accepted)

c) Those who follow their own offshot(s) made by an author or authors
of books (i.e. followers of a certain kind of book-line created by an
author or authors past the official physical death of Blavatsky, while
often rejection other similar authors books)

d) Those which - in a certain sense - are a mix of the above

My view is, that there are authors, who belongs to the wisdom
tradition, but who never writes using the word "theosophy" or anything
like it in their books.

But who they are, or the major important ones are, well that is not
quite clear - even today year 2003, not even within theosophical
circles.

That it is so, - is quite interesting.

And that not all books are suitable for the new seekers of wisdom are
also interesting.

The issue is, that some seekers of wisdom, have this sort of strange
view, that the whole truth can be written on just a few physical
books - ie. 10, 20, 30, 40, 50, 60 and maybe 100 or 200 books. But I
have to tell those who think so, they at present are very wrong, when
having such assumptions.

The books may help the seeker on the path towards wisdom. The truth
and wisdom are not to be found in form of a physical book. Both truth
and wisdom are formless.

Different groups and organizations can lead different aspirant and
seekers of wisdom on the path towards spiritual liberation. One path
for each seeker, that is the truth.

Well these were my views.

Feel free do your best or to comment...




from
M. Sufilight with peace...

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