Theos-Talk Archives (December 2002 Message tt00159)

I see I was right before I read this crap. I speak for HPB, and I 
don't need your ************ permission to do so.

Netemara
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--- In theos-talk@y..., leonmaurer@a... wrote:
> 
> In a message dated 11/30/02 11:46:57 PM, netemara888@y... writes:
> 
> >--- In theos-talk@y..., leonmaurer@a... wrote:
> >
> >> 
> >> In a message dated 11/27/02 8:27:30 AM, dhyana@w... writes:
> >> 
> >> >If it is right that Socialism and Communism ("We are all 
equal") 
> >> >in its several variations was invented by the background power 
> >> >in the Vatican to destroy the Protestant movement in Germany, 
> >> >then it is no wonder why the ruling red caps and the pupils of 
the 
> >> >Frankfurt school in Austria (and also in Germany) are so 
furious  
> >> >about HPB, as Theosophy was brought to he West to stop 
> >> >Socialism under all its masks.
> >> >Frank
> >> 
> >> Judging by your speculative (iffy) statement that what you imply 
> >> about the "invention" of Socialism and Communism, etc., you 
believe 
> >> to be true... Doesn't that also imply -- since the US 
constitution is 
> >> based on the Declaration of Independence which says, "...all men 
are 
> >> created equal" -- that you also believe the US is a 'masked'
> >> Socialist country, and that theosophy was introduced in America 
by 
> >> HPB to "stop" or overthrow it? Could we assume, then, by such 
subtly
> >> sly implications -- that you might be trying to propagandize us 
American 
> >> theosophists into believing that HPB wanted us to become an anti 
> >> government political movement? If so, I think she would come 
> >> flying out of her urn in one of her typical cold rages at 
the "dumbheads" 
> >> among us who haven't the faintest idea what "Universal 
Brotherhood" 
> >> means. >(Not to imply anything personal, of course. ;-) 
> >> LHM
> >
> >************
> >
> >LHM: I see you finally got something right. No one knows 
> >what "universal brotherhood" means. The closest in theory IMO and 
> >research is the Islamic faith, for all the castigation and 
malignment 
> >it has taken. Thus while Theosophy may be called Buddhism on the 
> >surface it is Islamic under the skin. 
> 
> Implying, of course -- with your usual half cocked, pseudo profound 
and 
> prejudicial innuendo technique -- that everything else I have said 
on this 
> forum is wrong. Well, why don't we leave it to the other readers 
here to 
> decide for themselves who talks without a forked tongue. But then, 
I wonder 
> if you really understand anything you read that I have written? I 
didn't say 
> "no one knows." I only referred to the "dumbheads" among us that 
haven't yet 
> picked up Blavatsky's meaning for the term, nor have they 
understood its 
> connection with the practice of altruism -- which is identical to 
the 
> teachings of Gautama the Buddha, Jesus the Christ, and even 
Mohammed the 
> Prophet. Although, there's no need to identify those fundamental 
truths they 
> taught with the various distorted exoteric religions, that also 
have no 
> conception -- except for their few TRUE "fundamentalists" who don't 
rely of 
> their dead letters -- what "Universal Brotherhood," as HPB spoke of 
it, 
> really means. 
> >
> >She need not rematerialize from her urn of cold ash. BTW she was 
more 
> >of a political creature than I think you give her credit. In her 
> >former incarnation as ISIS she wanted to rule the 'known world,' 
> >including all of Palestine and Israel. Her complexity is 
unsurpassed 
> >by anyone in history. What say you of the "Master of the 7?"
> 
> Thank you for the complement (pun intended :-). And to you, the 
Master of -- 
> whatever -- I say; HPB speaks for herself... And, her not being a 
> "politician" is perfectly obvious in her writings (in the sense of 
the 
> meaning of the word "political" as used in my answer to Frank... 
See 
> definition #1 below*). So, your use of the sly innuendo (referring 
to her as 
> ISIS) and implication that HPB was attempting to "rule the world" 
from a 
> "political" standpoint, is nothing more than a propaganda ploy 
(used by those 
> prejudiced ones you always seem to be defending) to justify your 
own 
> apparently biased position with respect to the fundamental ethical 
teachings 
> of HPB, as well as the aims and purposes of the theosophical 
movement. 
> 
> LHM
> 
> * po-lit-i-cal adj. Abbr. pol. polit. 1. Of, relating to, or 
dealing with the 
> structure or affairs of government, politics, or the state. 2. 
Relating to, 
> involving, or characteristic of politics, parties, or politicians: 
“Calling a 
> meeting is a political act in itself” Daniel Goleman 3. Having 
or marked by 
> a definite or organized policy or structure with regard to 
government: the 
> union's political machine; political pressure. 4. Relating to or 
involving 
> acts regarded as damaging to a government or state: political 
crimes. 
> (American Heritage Dictionery)
> 
> 
> 
> >Netemara