Theos-Talk Archives (December 2002 Message tt00158)

I DON'T need your permission to be anything, including 'antisemitic.' 
Don't address me you are not worthy.

Netemara

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--- In theos-talk@y..., leonmaurer@a... wrote:
> Maybe you should read Jung's book, "Moses and Monotheism," and his 
> introduction to the Wilhelm/Bains translation of the I-Ching -- 
before 
> pontificating on what is and is not "a matter of history." Your 
opinionated 
> "finger pointing" prejudices and anti semitism, without appropriate 
> references, are beginning to be obvious and tiresome.
> 
> LHM
> 
> In a message dated 12/01/02 12:08:40 AM, netemara888@y... writes:
> 
> >Thank you for your comments John. I do not understand your very 
last 
> >line however.
> >
> >As for Jung, I just put all of his books I own together so that I 
> >might better look at them as a whole, the writer I quoted stated 
that 
> >Jung was a 'psychologist' and this surprised me as well. That he 
> >broke from Freud "the godless Jew" by his own appellation, is a 
> >matter of history. But Freud was a psychiatrist, meaning that he 
> >employed the techniques of a psychiatrist and was an M.D. 
naturally. 
> >I think he is credited with inventing psychoanalysis (which I call 
> >unadulterated rubbish and quackery). I will check on Jung's 
> >credentials. But if he is a psychologist then he need only be a 
Ph.D. 
> >rather than and instead of an M.D.. 
> >
> >Yes, psychology and psychiatry are two separate disciplines. One 
> >being an MD (psychiatry) and the other not even close to needing 
to 
> >be an MD. Do you know Ken Wilber's work? He is a transpersonal 
> >psychologist. However, he started off studying to be an MD. He 
does 
> >not ever have to deal with man as a physical being, but he is 
> >holistic in his approach nonetheless. This is a general 
description.
> >
> >And yes, your points about I-I and Advaita are well taken.
> >
> >That (MD part) might also explain why he may have broken with 
Freud. 
> >They differed on the 'God' part obviously. I think he might have 
also 
> >taken issue with Freud's "interpretation of dreams and 
> >his 'borrowing' of the Oedipal Complex" as a catch basin for every 
> >cause of man's psychoses and neuroses. And by Jung's eventual 
belief 
> >in Oriental thought he would HAVE to be diametrically opposed to 
such 
> >a simplification of life and its meaning. I think that IMO Freud 
was 
> >a wannabe Nietzsche, and I mean to do some research along those 
> >lines. But Jung's interpretations of Eastern thought and 
philosophy 
> >are of top quality IMO. 
> >
> >One might define Truth as the 'absence of error' as you put it. 
But 
> >it is much much more than that. It is a constant presence which I 
> >believe can and must be attained to. I do believe in the Trinity 
and 
> >the Holy Spirit (aka Paraclete). I believe it to be a part of 
every 
> >human being. That is the only source of Truth for humanity and 
> >without it there is evil--evil within and without.
> >
> >I tell everyone that the Middle Ages is the beginning of the 'New 
> >Age' and indeed it was at that time that the word 'modern' was 
> >coined. It informs much of what I KNOW now.
> >
> >Netemara