Theos-Talk Archives (December 2002 Message tt00150)

In a message dated 11/30/02 11:46:57 PM, netemara888@yahoo.com writes:

>--- In theos-talk@y..., leonmaurer@a... wrote:
>
>> 
>> In a message dated 11/27/02 8:27:30 AM, dhyana@w... writes:
>> 
>> >If it is right that Socialism and Communism ("We are all equal") 
>> >in its several variations was invented by the background power 
>> >in the Vatican to destroy the Protestant movement in Germany, 
>> >then it is no wonder why the ruling red caps and the pupils of the 
>> >Frankfurt school in Austria (and also in Germany) are so furious  
>> >about HPB, as Theosophy was brought to he West to stop 
>> >Socialism under all its masks.
>> >Frank
>> 
>> Judging by your speculative (iffy) statement that what you imply 
>> about the "invention" of Socialism and Communism, etc., you believe 
>> to be true... Doesn't that also imply -- since the US constitution is 
>> based on the Declaration of Independence which says, "...all men are 
>> created equal" -- that you also believe the US is a 'masked'
>> Socialist country, and that theosophy was introduced in America by 
>> HPB to "stop" or overthrow it? Could we assume, then, by such subtly
>> sly implications -- that you might be trying to propagandize us American 
>> theosophists into believing that HPB wanted us to become an anti 
>> government political movement? If so, I think she would come 
>> flying out of her urn in one of her typical cold rages at the "dumbheads" 
>> among us who haven't the faintest idea what "Universal Brotherhood" 
>> means. >(Not to imply anything personal, of course. ;-) 
>> LHM
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>LHM: I see you finally got something right. No one knows 
>what "universal brotherhood" means. The closest in theory IMO and 
>research is the Islamic faith, for all the castigation and malignment 
>it has taken. Thus while Theosophy may be called Buddhism on the 
>surface it is Islamic under the skin. 

Implying, of course -- with your usual half cocked, pseudo profound and 
prejudicial innuendo technique -- that everything else I have said on this 
forum is wrong. Well, why don't we leave it to the other readers here to 
decide for themselves who talks without a forked tongue. But then, I wonder 
if you really understand anything you read that I have written? I didn't say 
"no one knows." I only referred to the "dumbheads" among us that haven't yet 
picked up Blavatsky's meaning for the term, nor have they understood its 
connection with the practice of altruism -- which is identical to the 
teachings of Gautama the Buddha, Jesus the Christ, and even Mohammed the 
Prophet. Although, there's no need to identify those fundamental truths they 
taught with the various distorted exoteric religions, that also have no 
conception -- except for their few TRUE "fundamentalists" who don't rely of 
their dead letters -- what "Universal Brotherhood," as HPB spoke of it, 
really means. 
>
>She need not rematerialize from her urn of cold ash. BTW she was more 
>of a political creature than I think you give her credit. In her 
>former incarnation as ISIS she wanted to rule the 'known world,' 
>including all of Palestine and Israel. Her complexity is unsurpassed 
>by anyone in history. What say you of the "Master of the 7?"

Thank you for the complement (pun intended :-). And to you, the Master of -- 
whatever -- I say; HPB speaks for herself... And, her not being a 
"politician" is perfectly obvious in her writings (in the sense of the 
meaning of the word "political" as used in my answer to Frank... See 
definition #1 below*). So, your use of the sly innuendo (referring to her as 
ISIS) and implication that HPB was attempting to "rule the world" from a 
"political" standpoint, is nothing more than a propaganda ploy (used by those 
prejudiced ones you always seem to be defending) to justify your own 
apparently biased position with respect to the fundamental ethical teachings 
of HPB, as well as the aims and purposes of the theosophical movement. 

LHM

* po-lit-i-cal adj. Abbr. pol. polit. 1. Of, relating to, or dealing with the 
structure or affairs of government, politics, or the state. 2. Relating to, 
involving, or characteristic of politics, parties, or politicians: “Calling a 
meeting is a political act in itself” Daniel Goleman 3. Having or marked by 
a definite or organized policy or structure with regard to government: the 
union's political machine; political pressure. 4. Relating to or involving 
acts regarded as damaging to a government or state: political crimes. 
(American Heritage Dictionery)



>Netemara