Theos-Talk Archives (November 2002 Message tt00849)

Many thanks for your efforts Dallas.

It is clearly understood here.

Regards
Jeremy

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From: <dalval14@earthlink.net>
To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 12:34 PM
Subject: Theos-World RE: "RACE," and 'ARYAN" Let Us Not Forget


> Nov 25 2002
>
> Dear Friends
>
> Both the words "race" and "aryan" had special meanings in 1875 /1899
> which do not relate to later history including the period when the
> political party of the Nazis in Germany and elsewhere, appropriations
> of both these terms in the 1930s / 1940s and later, up to our modern
> times.
>
> The word "Aryan" is from old central Asia and means "noble." The
> ancient Persians were denoted "Iranis" -- and the designation has been
> revived -- " or "Aryans."
>
>
> If one goes to the INDEX of The SECRET DOCTRINE (1888) one will find
> adequate references that determine what was meant by H P B when she
> used those terms.
>
>
> "Race" was used as a measure of TIME, and the development of certain
> capacities, to which the whole of humanity was subject during the time
> when it went through seven changes during the period of a "GLOBE." A
> "GLOBE' is one seventh of a "ROUND." "Race," as then used by H P B,
> had nothing to do with the color of the skin.
>
>
> RACE
>
> [Complexion and its changes are dealt with in the S D on pages: Vol.
> II, 178, 227, 249-50, 282.]
> [Differences between Races are defined in S D Vol. I xliv; ; II,
> 103, 249-50, 607 ]
> [Origins were polygenetic S D I xxxv; 241, 574 ; II 139, 168,
> 191fn, 249, 748 ]
> [The dying out of races is explained: S D Vol. II 192, 195-6,
> 443-5, 437, 609, 779-80 ]
> [ The earliest races were boneless, ethereal, androgynous, astral, S
> D II 46, 96, 108, 115-7, 131, 134, 149, 151, 160, 174, 191-2, 194,
> 294, 583, 635, 704, ]
> [ They were born from the "gods" S D I 323; II 86-7, 164, 198,
> 507, 538 ]
> [The effect of isolation on races: S D II 425 ]
> [Hybrid "races" S D II 275, 714, 444 (new race springs from
> hybrids) ]
> ["Inferior" races : S D II 162, 249, 425 (a fallacy), 721, ]
> [Three great "races" only remain: S D II 471fn, 780 ]
> [Our "race" has reached the 5th sub-race S D II 471fn ]
> [Savage besides civilized in all ages S D II 716 ]
>
>
> Nowadays we refer to complexion when we mention race, and to physical
> heredity, also to some of the vicissitudes that our ancestors have
> been forced to undergo until a more reasonable sense of human balance
> and equality
>
>
> HEREDITY
>
> [Heredity-- Its causes S D I 223, II 421, ]
> [Biogenetic Law S D II 659, ]
> [Acquired characteristics: S D I 219, 223fn; II 711fn ]
> [Transmission of atoms: S D II 671-2
> [Karma and S D II 178, ]
>
>
> ANTHROPOIDS and APES
>
> [Anthropoids: S D II 688fn, ]
> [Unnatural, accidental creation: S D II 261, ]
> [Origin: S D I 185fn, II 184, 195, 200-1, 262, 286-8, 375, 679,
> 688-9 ]
> [Descended from man S D II 185, 187, 287-8, 676, 682, 688fn, ]
> ["Common ancestor ?" S D II 646 ]
> [Some will become "human" in this Round: S D I 184, II
> 61-3 ]
> [3rd ROUND ape-man: S D II 730 ]
> [Will die out in our race S D I 184 ]
>
>
> ARYAN ( Irani - Persian - Noble )
>
> [Ancestors (of Egyptians S D II 328, 746 ); (Arabs are later S D
> II 200}
> [Born in the north S D II 426, 768 ]
> [Atlanteans preceded and taught: S D II 144, 266fn, 352, 384,395,
> 426, 495, 768, 776, ]
> [Aryan Adepts fought Atlantean sorcerers S D II 225, 384, 495, ]
> [5th race ( S D II 8, 10) is incorrectly called "Aryan" S D II
> 433-4 ]
> [Hindu, 1st sub-race of Aryans, almost 1 million years old S D II
> 436fn, 449-451, 470-1, 609, ]
> [Negroes, Mongols are of the Aryans S D II 607fn ]
> [Europeans are later "aryans" S D I 425 ]
> [Many colors S D II 249-50, 394, 426, 607fn ]
> [2nd Sub-race built menhirs, etc...S D II 750
> [Present Kali-Yuga is of the Aryans S D I 644-5; II 147fn ]
>
> These are a few of the many references to pre-history given in The
> SECRET DOCTRINE
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Dallas
>
> =================================
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Daniel H. Caldwell
> Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2002 11:06 AM
> To:
> Subject: Let Us Not Forget
>
> Even though Brian has been removed from Theos-Talk [that is my
> understanding from Eldon's recent email], we should not forget that
> Brian did bring to our forum some important issues that Blavatsky and
> Theosophical students should ponder on.
>
> For example, the "race" issue and the use of the word "aryan" as
> given in the various quotes from the Mahatma Letters and in the
> Secret Doctrine need to be studied, discussed and understood.
>
> And I assume it was because of Brian that Goswami came to Theos-
> Talk. That is good, because Goswami brings up underlying issues that
> need to studied, discussed and understood by Theosophists.
>
> Daniel
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